Paul, Here are some Lab data for the k7 black (100% patch): HPR (BW): L 17.26 a 0.70 b 1.36 Carl On Oct 7, 2005, at 11:26 AM, Paul Roark wrote: >> The k7 black does not have an outstanding dmax, ... >> Some values I've measured with the 4000 are: Hahnemuhle Photo >> Rag Bright White 1.63, Hahnemuhle White Velvet 1.61, and >> Hahnemuhle Photo Rag 1.63 ... >> > > Aside from the low dmax, what is the tone of the black -- that is, > the full > RGB and Lab readings? > > If the dmax on PhotoRag is that low, I wonder what UltraSmooth/ > PremierArt > looks like? > > Where the black affects the rest of the image most is from 90% to > 100%. The > cross-over from neutral (or cool) to warm in that range has been a > tough > problem to deal with and still have a good dmax. Luckily, the eye > is not > that sensitive to small tone changes in the deep shadows. > > My attempts to cool matte blacks with cyan have resulted in what I > consider > substandard dmax figures. Actually, one attraction of the k3 > approach to me > is that with a rip I can pour in cyan in the deep shadows and do > the best > job yet of reducing the cross-over. > > Paul > www.PaulRoark.com > > > > > > > ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -------------------- > ~--> > Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your > home page > http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/ucIolB/TM > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > ~-> > > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other > resources as they are often being updated. > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint > > If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you > wish to unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by > visiting this same page. > > Please follow these basic guidelines: > - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages > to keep them short. > - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or > flames. Hostile, aggressive or argumentative users may be removed > from the membership without notice. > - Keep your posts and threads related to the group topic of digital > B&W printing. Users who persistently make off-topic posts may be > removed from the membership. > - By posting on this forum you agree to abide by the group rules > and guidelines, and to abide by the actions and decisions of the > group Owner and Moderators. See “Group Topic, Rules and Guidelines” > in the Files section: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/files/ > > BY PARTICIPATING IN AND/OR POSTING MESSAGES TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE > PRINT YAHOO! GROUP YOU EXPRESSLY UNDERSTAND AND AGREE THAT THE > “OWNER” AND “MODERATORS” OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP SHALL > NOT BE LIABLE TO YOU FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, > CONSEQUENTIAL OR EXEMPLARY DAMAGES, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, > DAMAGES FOR LOSS OF PROFITS, GOODWILL, USE, DATA OR OTHER > INTANGIBLE LOSSES (EVEN IF THE “OWNER” AND “MODERATORS” OF DIGITAL > BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP HAVE BEEN ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF > SUCH DAMAGES), RESULTING FROM: (i) THE USE OR THE INABILITY TO USE > THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; (ii) UNAUTHORIZED ACCESS TO > OR ALTERATION OF YOUR TRANSMISSIONS OR DATA; (iii) STATEMENTS OR > CONDUCT OF ANY THIRD PARTY ON THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO > GROUP; OR (iv) ANY OTHER MATTER RELATING TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE > PRINT YAHOO GROUP. > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > >
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Re: [Digital BW] K7 -- Digest Number 3458
2005-10-07 by Carl Schofield
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