In the continuing quest for better dmax and more "punch" in my images, I have to say, whatever MIS has done with the most recent UT7 formulation to make it work on RC paper, seems amazing to me. Paul - after our exchange, I was digging through the paper stack and found a packet with a few sheets of premium semigloss. I remembered reading a post from you about MIS claiming improved bronzing characteristics, so I figured, what the heck - I'll give it a try (I had long ago given up on RC papers as totally unacceptable with pigmented inks - although, I never mastered the spray coating technique, so that probably wasn't fair). Well, the short answer is, I'm stunned. There is still a little bronzing (basically, reduced reflectance compared to the overall print, in areas where K < ~2-3%) but you have to angle the print to the light in such a way as to try to see it. Under most conditions and normal viewing angles, you don't see it at all. And the blacks are actually BLACK. What is really amazing is that this was achieved as essentially a quad-tone mixing only the C, M, LC and LM inks. Not to mention that I think the micro detail is perceptibly much sharper than any matte print (even EEM, which, archival or not has the smoothest surface character of any matte paper I've used). I had convinced myself that my matte prints looked pretty good, but viewing them next to some prints of the same images on semigloss with the latest UT7 inks - there is IMO no comparison. Anybody in Austin, TX want to take the rest of my PAHP 325 paper off my hands?? :-) Doug --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Roark" <paul.roark@v...> wrote: > > Doug, > > Premier Art Print Shield (solvent) does not increase dmax, at least as > normally used. It actually decreases it. > > (It sounds like your curve has a shadow ramp that needs fixing.) > > The water-based products like Eco can increase dmax, but smooth application > is tricky. > > Paul > www.PaulRoark.com > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com > > [mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Doug > > Wolf > > Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2005 1:36 PM > > To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com > > Subject: [Digital BW] Matte paper, sprays and dmax > > > > Greetings, group. > > > > I've searched the archives, and have not come up with an answer, > > although I imagine there is one there somewhere. > > > > I've got a workflow using QTR with UT7 inks established, mostly on > > premierart hotpress 325 gsm, and am very happy with most of the > > results, as long as large black elements are not a major component of > > the picture. The dmax is such that if there are large shadow areas, > > the print takes on a "muddy" feel. - High key prints, or those with > > only small or diffuse shadow areas seem to look fine to me and other > > viewers. > > > > So the question is - does PremierArt print shield increase the dmax on > > matte papers? Has anyone had any experience with the PriemerArt ECO > > coatings, and if so, does anyone know when the aerosol versions will > > be available, and from where? > > > > Thanks in advance - > > > > Doug > > > > > > > > > > > > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other resources as > > they are often being updated. > > > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint > > > > If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish to > > unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting this same > > page. > > > > Please follow these basic guidelines: > > - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to keep > > them short. > > - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or flames. > > Hostile, aggressive or argumentative users may be removed from the > > membership without notice. > > - Keep your posts and threads related to the group topic of digital B&W > > printing. 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No more (ok, very little) matte paper for me ... (was - Matte paper, sprays ...)
2005-10-07 by Doug Wolf
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