Digital BW, The Print

> From: Olivier <odesmais@...>

> 
> Thanks for your input.
> As I said I'm a newbie in RIPs (as in many other fields BTW).
> 
> To John regarding QTR, I use it (very happily) on a 1290-Piezo and I
> hope Roy will soon support the 4800.

It is supported

>If not at least I can use the BW
> ICC. It's a matter of testing against ABW. I suspect 2400/4800 and up
> lay down some color inks when in ABW ;

Of course they do.  It's the only way to tone the 3K.  So does QTR.  The
only difference is the use of yellow ink by Epson (and not by the 4800 QTR
curves I did)

>I'm not yet sure and I'm going
> to an Epson so-called training session in 10 days : since it will be
> Epson product demo session, I'll find out.
> 
> I believe my understanding of a RIP ranks from minimal to unexisting.
> 
> As a starting point, I'm disappointed somehow with the Pulse soft : I
> did not realise that it would not linearise or more precisely setting
> ink limit : I have fine/acceptable colors on a 1800 but terrible
> shadows overloaded with ink specially on EEM.
> 
> The X-rite support informed me that upgrading to Monaco Profiler will
> linearise the printer and solve the ink limit issue : I just think
> there's a misunderstanding there. I can't imagine a profile limiting
> ink. It seems I'd be supposed to get addtional controls of the Black
> generation... but I doubt on ink limit control : I may well be wrong
> here. I need to dig a bit more unless you have some advise on a more
> powerful (an awfully expensive) profiler as a solution.
> 
> Since I' have been using QTR, I'm basically seeking something
> comparable for color worklow with possibly some additional features.
> Meaning I'd like to be able to set ink limit, linearise the channels,
> improve dithering and/or interpolation, and then of course produce
> more accurate color profiles.
> 
> How extravagant are these expectations for a non-pro : I can't
> assess. But if I'm to get a 4800 this is the kind of issues I
> currently considering.

I would find it hard to justify an expensive colour rip for a non pro.
Definitely test them thoroughly first before piling your money on the
counter.

> 
> I took a look at Colorburst (quite quickly the Pro version since it
> includes CMYK profiling capacity) and this seemed to offer these
> features for what I assume to be a fair price though it remains a
> considerable apount of $ and though it will not support the small
> 1800 but I could eventually dedicate it to only gloss "small" prints
> since I'm happy with both rendering and profiling ability on glossy
> papers. If there's a comprehensive RIP that would drive both the 1800
> and 4800 I'd be VERY happy.
> 
> A final thought is about the learning curve to properly use a RIP :
> is this realistic for a simple amateur.
> 
> This is where I am : I believe I started to post too early before
> digging a bit more for info on the web and from suppliers.
> 
> If you feel like adding comments, I'd be grateful while I'll
> perfectly understand a get-more-basic-info-before-posting reply (or
> no reply).
> 
> Thanks again for your initial help.
> 
> Olivier
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