OK, that makes it even easier. Since you are not calibrated, I can be somewhat casual with the paper and curve selection. Please dont take that the wrong way, owners of spectros like to think they are indispensable tools, while some may think we dispensed our money like fools. :-) I ran BO at 2880 dpi, with OEM/PK ink, since that is what happens to be in the 2200 right now. I printed on both matte and semigloss; yes PK on matte, since it is just a sharpness test. No huge difference, so Ill talk about the matte print. The BO is sharper than QTR, more so near graphics like lettering, less so where the local contrast is less, and not at all sharper in low contrast areas like sedimentary canyon walls. Everywhere QTR has more detail, although it appears softer, which is not a big surprise. On matte, the warm BO ink against the cold paper white exaggerates the contrast even more than the image file. Also, as Clayton said, the tonal response of BO enhances high contrast graphic type features, so unless you had a similar hockey stick shaped ramp in QTR, you should not expect the same thing. All that aside, I dont think it is so straightforward to make a curve and sharpening operation that will make a two tone (K/LK) print like 2200/QTR and a 2200/BO print look identical. The BO has higher local contrast at the expense of detail, and its a function of the amount of local contrast. With a boost in contrast, and more sharpening applied to the QTR image, I expect the difference to be less. Well, I just tried the sharpening part, and for dark graphics against light backgrounds or the inverse, QTR looks a little sharper than BO, but for light against mid-toned backgrounds it is oversharpened. Without a loupe, this sharpened QTR print looks similar in sharpness to the lightly sharpened BO print. I hope this answers some of your questions. Best regards, John Moody -----Original Message----- From: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com [mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of djon43 Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2005 3:28 PM To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Digital BW] QTR vs BO sharpness --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "John Moody" <moodymz3@y...> wrote: > > Sure, I have a bunch of things going on here, but I was planning to fire up > the 2200 anyway. Thanks John! I'll plead primative here...no i1 and no photo website (hmm..maybe I could do it on photo.net). Lacking the i1, what I'd most like is your subjective impression of the relative sharpness of BO Vs QTR using a highly sharp-detailed image and your most standard QTR curve, without adjusting to match BO... I'd most like to know if I've got a local problem (with the printer or QTR itself) or if we're talking about a workflow issue, *such as creating sharper images from QTR than it wants to create when it's linear.* My goal isn't to fix any fault in BO. My impression is that BO's LACK of linearity is a virtue, sharpness-wise, but I prefer QTR's tone control. I'm using OEM pigs and, for example, EEM and Kirkland. I'm printing everything at 1440. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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RE: [Digital BW] QTR vs BO sharpness
2005-11-08 by John Moody
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