Digital BW, The Print

I've been using the MIS k4 inks in my 2400, both with MK (Eboni) and PK (mostly the 
latter).  I provided some comparisons of Epson k3 and MIS k4  density measurements  in 
an earlier thread (see links below), but the bottom line is that Epson k3 PK dmax is slightly 
higher compared to MIS PK4 on the same papers.  Dmax differences between Epson k3 MK 
and MIS Eboni are dependant on the paper, in some cases Eboni exhibits higher dmax on 
3rd party papers and Epson k3 MK does better on Epson papers (VFA in particular).  On the 
RC papers with MIS k4 inks surface gloss is noticeably less compared to Epson k3 inks on 
the same papers (a plus in my book) and on my two favorite RC papers (Epson Premium 
Semimatte and Pictorico Premium Photo Glossy) there is no bronzing or gloss differential 
as well.  The MIS R2-PKN can also be used if you want a cooler black and slightly higher 
dmax.  I've only made a few color prints on Epson Premium Semimatte (I made my own 
profile) with the k4 inks, but they look great and I see no difference compared to Epson 
k3, other than less gloss and slightly lower dmax.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/message/70576
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/message/70648

Carl

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Bob Michaels" <bob@b...> 
wrote:
>
> Peter: my excellent experience with the MIS PRO matches yours. I use
> it in a 1280. That's why I was hoping the MIS PRO and the K4 were the
> same. Unfortunately, MIS says the MIS PRO is not usable in a 2400. 
> 
> Anyone got a report on how the K4 does?
> 
> Bob Michaels
> 
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "bwbonkers"
> <PeterDLevis@a...> wrote:
> >
> > Jerry
> > 
> > I cannot answers your question with regards the K4 inks but I did
> recently do a 
> > comparison with MIS Pro vs Epson ink in a 2100.  My friends 2100 had
> MIS Pro ink and 
> > mine Epson ink. I  made profiles for Olmec Satin with my EyeOne
> using the same settings 
> > for each setup. We then printer the same test chart from each
> printer. Looking at the test 
> > print side by side it was hard to see much difference. The MIS print
> looked to us just as 
> > good as the Epson print. We were both very impressed by the MIS
> print. We also both 
> > thought that the MIS print exhibited less metamerism than the Epson
> print. Apart from 
> > making a custom profile there was no hassle in using the MIS ink. 
> > 
> > One of the reasons for doing the test is that I upgraded my printer
> recently to the 2400 
> > and like yourself I'm interested in the K4 inks. The result of our
> simple test has given me 
> > confidence to try the K4 inks when I have used up my stock of Epson ink.
> > 
> > Just for interest we also printed the same test print on my 2400
> with K3 Epson inks. The 
> > 2400 print was the clear winner. The print showed slightly more
> detail and saturation but 
> > the real difference was that there was no metamerism. It showed
> quite clearly why the 
> > 2400 is so good at BW compared to the 2100. 
> > 
> > Hope this helps.
> > 
> > Regards Peter.
> >
>