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RE: [Digital BW] Paper quest(ion)

2005-12-27 by Jim Doyle

geoff

HPR Comes in 188 gsm Try That and The Innova Papers Smooth Cotton High White
215gsm and Soft texture 190gsm ..asfter That You do Have Some Other
Choices..But I dont think they carry the DMAx Your Looking for..

Happy Holidays
Jim Doyle


J. Doyle Enterprises LLC
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[mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of vmixer42
  Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 8:30 AM
  To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: [Digital BW] Paper quest(ion)


  I've been lurking for a month or so, getting set up with an R220 and MIS
inks for hextone
  and BO output from my scanned B&W negatives, and have been having a grand
time
  making stacks of prints as holiday gifts, so thanks all for the great
info. on this group.

  I'm now at the point where I'm fine-tuning my process and am looking for a
paper stock to
  become my standard paper.  I've tried many different kinds, and like
aspects of many of
  them, but haven't found a go-to paper yet.  Note that I haven't tried any
glossy (or lustre
  or semi-matte) papers yet (waiting for my first cart of Eboni to run out,
but I generally
  prefer matte for my "hero" prints).  I know this will be a continuing saga
of trial and error
  (not to mention my changing tastes), but I'm looking for suggestions based
on some
  criteria I've observed in other papers:

  - Papers like HPR and Red River Dourian Art have a bit too much texture
for me, but I love
  e.g. Dourian's balance of warmth, brightness, ink color and, especially,
its dmax.  The
  R220 doesn't want to eat the HPR in 308gsm weight and needs a bit of
"help" to get it to
  take (and the stiff curl at the end of the page can result in uneven
printing -- only visible
  in BO so far).  I've had the same weight/thickness issue with Moab Entrada
BW (@
  300gsm).

  - PA205 (or PremierArt Matte Scrapbook for Epson which I've been using) is
a beautiful
  paper, but the base is too warm for me and the weight (@ 205) and dmax too
low.

  - EEM is great but not archival.  Also perhaps a little too bright/cool
and not heavy
  enough to feel like a "real" print in the hand.  The smoothness is just
about right though.

  So, are there papers out there that I could/should try that may combine
the elements
  above: ~230-280 gsm weight, smooth texture a la EEM and good balance of
warmth,
  brightness and dmax such as in HPR and RR Dourian Art?  Thanks again all
for the great
  info. here and for reading if you've made it this far ;).

  Cheers,
  --Geoff







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