Digital BW, The Print

Thanks Bill & Jim.  I think I will give the Bradford stuff a try.  Hadn't heard of that one.  
What's the texture like?

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Jim Doyle" <jdoyle1713@c...> 
wrote:
>
> geoff
> 
> HPR Comes in 188 gsm Try That and The Innova Papers Smooth Cotton High White
> 215gsm and Soft texture 190gsm ..asfter That You do Have Some Other
> Choices..But I dont think they carry the DMAx Your Looking for..
> 
> Happy Holidays
> Jim Doyle
> 
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>   -----Original Message-----
>   From: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of vmixer42
>   Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 8:30 AM
>   To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
>   Subject: [Digital BW] Paper quest(ion)
> 
> 
>   I've been lurking for a month or so, getting set up with an R220 and MIS
> inks for hextone
>   and BO output from my scanned B&W negatives, and have been having a grand
> time
>   making stacks of prints as holiday gifts, so thanks all for the great
> info. on this group.
> 
>   I'm now at the point where I'm fine-tuning my process and am looking for a
> paper stock to
>   become my standard paper.  I've tried many different kinds, and like
> aspects of many of
>   them, but haven't found a go-to paper yet.  Note that I haven't tried any
> glossy (or lustre
>   or semi-matte) papers yet (waiting for my first cart of Eboni to run out,
> but I generally
>   prefer matte for my "hero" prints).  I know this will be a continuing saga
> of trial and error
>   (not to mention my changing tastes), but I'm looking for suggestions based
> on some
>   criteria I've observed in other papers:
> 
>   - Papers like HPR and Red River Dourian Art have a bit too much texture
> for me, but I love
>   e.g. Dourian's balance of warmth, brightness, ink color and, especially,
> its dmax.  The
>   R220 doesn't want to eat the HPR in 308gsm weight and needs a bit of
> "help" to get it to
>   take (and the stiff curl at the end of the page can result in uneven
> printing -- only visible
>   in BO so far).  I've had the same weight/thickness issue with Moab Entrada
> BW (@
>   300gsm).
> 
>   - PA205 (or PremierArt Matte Scrapbook for Epson which I've been using) is
> a beautiful
>   paper, but the base is too warm for me and the weight (@ 205) and dmax too
> low.
> 
>   - EEM is great but not archival.  Also perhaps a little too bright/cool
> and not heavy
>   enough to feel like a "real" print in the hand.  The smoothness is just
> about right though.
> 
>   So, are there papers out there that I could/should try that may combine
> the elements
>   above: ~230-280 gsm weight, smooth texture a la EEM and good balance of
> warmth,
>   brightness and dmax such as in HPR and RR Dourian Art?  Thanks again all
> for the great
>   info. here and for reading if you've made it this far ;).
> 
>   Cheers,
>   --Geoff
> 
> 
> 
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