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[Digital BW] Re: HPR alternative?

2005-12-31 by sagaface

I can't seem to find Permajet's US distributor. Where are you purchasing yours?

And I have to say that the idea of any yellowing however minimal isn't good. I've seen what 
happens to EEM and it isn't pretty. Is this purely a result of the OBA's? Do you use any of 
the sprays available?

Well, I am definitely going to order some of the Innova and a sampler of the Premier. If I 
can find the Permajet I'll give them a whirl, too.

"On a 2200 with the Epson driver, even Moab and Premier Art might not make the 
cut."...Santa didn't bring me the 4800 I asked for so I'm stuck for now. ;^)


Paul, you've been a great help...thanks. 

Sarah



--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Roark" <paul.roark@v...> 
wrote:
>
> > Paul, which Innova were you refering to with Eboni? Photo Smooth Rag?
> 
> That is probably the best, in my view.  One of my favorite papers is
> PermaJet Alpha.  This uses an Innova coating with no OBAs on a smooth cotton
> substrate.  I'd originally thought the Innova Soft Texture was essentially
> the same, but in recent tests the alpha cellulose Innova papers (Soft
> Texture and Fiba Print) have been less smooth than the cotton ones.
> 
> > Would you
> > personally rate this paper high in terms of fade
> > resistance/discoloration/stability et. al?
> 
> Assuming it's similar to Alpha (and that is probably a valid assumption), it
> would probably be just behind Premier Art in stability.  That's rather good.
> Since it does have some OBAs in it (unlike Premier Art) there will be some
> yellowing of the paper, but it'd be rather minor.  Innova papers are not
> overdone in this respect.  They tend to be quite neutral when brightened.
> 
> > I need to start testing some new papers but want to narrow the field
> > considerably due to budget constraints.
> 
> Premier Art had some bad press here a few weeks ago regarding quality
> control.  I have not had that problem, but don't doubt it.  Nonetheless, I'd
> recommend you test some of the PremierArt Fine Art Hot Press.  I like the
> 205, in part because it is cheap, has no OBAs, and is very stable.
> 
> To limit the papers I test, I draw the line at a matte dmax of 1.60.  So, as
> soon as I find that the paper doesn't hit that, the paper is no longer in
> the game.  That eliminates a very large number of matte papers.  On a 2200
> with the Epson driver, even Moab and Premier Art might not make the cut.
> 
> Paul
> www.PaulRoark.com
>

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