Digital BW, The Print

Michael,

Both the C86 EZ Warm and the R2 Warm are supposed to be pure carbon inks.
As such, I would expect about the same warmth on prints.  Dot size
differences might make a small difference, but I doubt it would be
significant.  If you fill your own and want the warm tone, R2 Warm is just
UT2 or UT7 dark and light gray carbon inks (UT2 M & LM, UT7 C & LC).

Paul
www.PaulRoark.com 


> -----Original Message-----
> From: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Michael
> Vendrell
> Sent: Monday, January 02, 2006 5:02 PM
> To: digital B&W
> Subject: [Digital BW] Warmer Tone with EZ C86 Warm vs UT-R2 R220 Warm
> 
> Paul Roark, et al:
> 
> Paul, 1st let me add my thanks and respect for all
> thank you so kindly pioneer for the rest of us!
> 
> My question concerns the tone with your C86 EZW and
> R220 UT-R2W ink-sets: I have printed one of my old
> favorite negatives (35mm Panatomic scanned with a
> Nikon 9000ED)taken in a mostly dark hallway with light
> coming through a small star shaped window at the end -
> you probably get the "picture" - there is a lot of
> dark gray, some pure black, a bit of middle gray, and
> some pure white. I have been pleased with both of the
> approaches using HPR, your insets, your recommended
> settings, and for the  R220, your ICC profile for the
> HPR at gamma 2.2.  But, there is a pronounced easily
> perceptible difference in tone - the C86 EZW being
> very much warmer than the R220 UT-R2W both onto HPR
> with very similar overall density.  I even double
> checked to be sure I had the Warm UT-R2 set in and
> assuming they came correctly filled and labeled from
> MIS - I do.
> 
> Is this just the "nature of the beasts" or is
> something wrong? Again, I like them both, although I
> give a slight nod to the less-warm R220 UT-R2W.
> 
> Any thoughts would be appreciated.
> 
> HAPPY NEW YEAR TO ALL...
> 
> Michael Vendrell
> 
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