Thanks for clarifying Walt. The color shift from blue to neutral is quite pronounced, but as you suggest not true metamerism. No green/ cyan color under flourescent though. Carl On Jan 22, 2006, at 7:55 PM, Walt Mucha wrote: > Hi Carl > > What you're seeing is not metamerism. The light temperature of > halogens and incandescent are a considerably warmer color > temperature than daylight and that in effect will neutralise a cool > tone print. Put it under plain flouresent light and you'll probably > see a green/cyan cast. As to Dmax. If these inks last longer than > dyes then that's good, if not, it's not all that spectacular. Still > waiting for someone to put a color print in their window. I might > have to spring for some of these inks myself just to satisfy my > morbid curiosity ;-) > > Regards, Walt > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Carl Schofield [mailto:scho@...] > Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2006 09:36 AM > To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [Digital BW] Nanochrome blue > > Today I made some visual comparisons of prints I've made over the > past few days using Nanochrome black ink in an Epson 4000 and > printing BO mode, mostly on Hahnemuhle Photo Rag 308 and Hahnemuhle > Photo Rag Satin. In daylight the prints have a cold blue/black > appearance, slightly cooler with the satin compared to regular photo > rag. Under halogens or normal incandescent lighting the prints on > both papers appear dead neutral. So this cold blue color we have > been discussing with regard to the Nanochrome black inks (K and LK) > appears to be a metameric phenomenon. This NOT the ugly metamerism > we have seen before with other inks that changes on the magenta/green > axis, but rather a cool/neutral shift. Seems like the black inks may > have been designed for neutrality under incandescent or halogen > lighting. Dmax is just terrific on these matte papers (1.9-2.0). > > > > > > > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other > resources as they are often being updated. > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint > > If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you > wish to unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by > visiting this same page. > > Please follow these basic guidelines: > - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages > to keep them short. > - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or > flames. Hostile, aggressive or argumentative users may be removed > from the membership without notice. > - Keep your posts and threads related to the group topic of digital > B&W printing. Users who persistently make off-topic posts may be > removed from the membership. > - By posting on this forum you agree to abide by the group rules > and guidelines, and to abide by the actions and decisions of the > group Owner and Moderators. See “Group Topic, Rules and Guidelines” > in the Files section: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/files/ > > BY PARTICIPATING IN AND/OR POSTING MESSAGES TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE > PRINT YAHOO! GROUP YOU EXPRESSLY UNDERSTAND AND AGREE THAT THE > “OWNER” AND “MODERATORS” OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP SHALL > NOT BE LIABLE TO YOU FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, > CONSEQUENTIAL OR EXEMPLARY DAMAGES, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, > DAMAGES FOR LOSS OF PROFITS, GOODWILL, USE, DATA OR OTHER > INTANGIBLE LOSSES (EVEN IF THE “OWNER” AND “MODERATORS” OF DIGITAL > BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP HAVE BEEN ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF > SUCH DAMAGES), RESULTING FROM: (i) THE USE OR THE INABILITY TO USE > THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; (ii) UNAUTHORIZED ACCESS TO > OR ALTERATION OF YOUR TRANSMISSIONS OR DATA; (iii) STATEMENTS OR > CONDUCT OF ANY THIRD PARTY ON THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO > GROUP; OR (iv) ANY OTHER MATTER RELATING TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE > PRINT YAHOO GROUP. > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > >
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Re: [Digital BW] Nanochrome blue
2006-01-23 by Carl Schofield
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