Digital BW, The Print

I find myself shouting here-here yet again.  Thanks
Clayton for stating this so eloquently and speaking up
for those of us who wish to use the technical in
service of the aesthetic whilst not losing sight of
the original goal...Michael Vendrell, MD

--- Clayton Jones <cj@...> wrote:

> Hello Stephen,
> 
> >>You may have no patience for opinion, but every
> print I have 
> >>ever sold was purchased by someone who in their
> opinion just 
> >>liked the image. I have never had a discussion
> about DMAX 
> >>with any collector.
> 
> >I don't think it's daft at all.  As much as I value
> the technical
> >information that is exchanged on this post, it is
> my understanding
> >that it is also quite legitimate to talk about
> esthetic concerns 
> >as well.
> 
> Add my vote to this.  He was making a point that,
> while subtle, was
> relevent to the tone of the thread.  Unfortunately
> it seemed to go
> over the heads of some readers.
> 
>  
> >I think it's important to appreciate that (for
> better or for worse) 
> >some people use technical matters as a means to an
> end, and that 
> >others use them as an end in and of itself.
> > 
> >It's just like the Zone System with film.  There
> were some
> >photographers who did a lot of exposure and
> development testing 
> >in order to make good prints.  There were others
> who got so caught 
> >up in the testing that they never had time to do
> creative work.  
> >And there were others who did none of the technical
> stuff, but who 
> >still managed to make some really interesting
> > images and even some beautiful prints.
> 
> Well said, thank you.
> 
> A few days ago Tyler described the visual effect of
> the White Velvet
> blacks that go "beyond the numbers".  I thought it
> was an important
> observation because there are observable phenonema
> that can't be (or
> at least aren't) quantified.  I don't recall anyone
> jumping all over
> him for that.  Discussions of the aesthetic side of
> things are as
> valid and relevent as the technical.  After all, the
> technical things
> are supposed to serve the aesthetic end result.
> 
> Let's not forget that there are some thousands of
> readers of this
> forum eagerly (and sometimes desperately) searching
> for information to
> help them get started or make make decisions. 
> Aesthetic observations,
> such as the visual effect of blacks on White Velvet,
> can be an
> important contribution.
> 
> Regards,
> Clayton
> 
> 
> Info on black and white digital printing at    
> http://www.cjcom.net/digiprnarts.htm
> 
> 
> 
> 


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