Digital BW, The Print

No.  Just print a black and white image and try to convey, in terms that I
and 10 others will be able agree absolutely on, the dynamic range you've
achieved without a measurement.  Your "opinion" that you and your workflow
achieved, say, a good black is of no information value to anyone, except to
say that you are happy. That's nice to know but then it's not very useful.
Shilesh was simply stating that measurements in units that are agreed are
useful for conveying information in an informative manner.  Nothing to do
with science or art.  Everything to do with communication.  Much like
agreeing a language and writing and spelling the words correctly.  We can't
discuss the aesthetic qualities of a print unless we each have a copy of the
print.  That's why we have, in conjunction with this cyberspace forum, print
exchanges so that those aspects and other technical aspects difficult to
measure and communicate can be discussed.  By its very nature, this forum
will be technically centric. I have some lovely images sitting on my desk.
What useful conversation can you and I have about the quality of my printed
images when you can't see them?  I can however, describe my workflow and
make and report various measurements which would give you objective insight
into what my workflow can achieve.  It won't cover all the bases but it will
cover many.  The more measurements with agreed units that can be made the
more that can be objectively conveyed via cyberspace.  You might, as a
result, compare such measurements with what you achieve with your workflow
and convey them to me via this forum.  I, or you, might then make the
decision to amend workflows and try other variants.  That's something we can
discuss.  Once done, though, we still can't discuss prints themselves unless
we each have copies of the same print.


> From: Gary Brown <baffin@...>
> Reply-To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
> Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2006 11:52:00 -0700
> To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Re: more paper news
> 
> Me thinks you prostestith too much.
> 
> Frankly with all of the numbers that are thrown about by all of the
> pseudo-scientists on this forum, IMHO many of the technical discussions are
> worth less than opinions.
> 
> I guess it's time to start the art vs. engineering argument again?
> 
> Gary
> 
> www.pbase.com/garyallenbrown
>