John, I think this is a very good case of where it is worth reading Livick's results rather than Wilhelm's. Here's a short quote from a piece I wrote about him: "his coating of choice is Clearshield Original although some may prefer the thinner Clearshield LL. Although he found the widely available Lascaux's 'Fixativ' to provide little benefit on its own, it both reduces the drying time needed before coating with Clearshield and gives some additional protection." And yes, it does appear to give very considerable protection from his tests. Of course you many not want your prints to last 300 years. I certainly can't be bothered with it. Regards, Peter Marshall petermarshall@... _________________________________________________________________ My London Diary http://mylondondiary.co.uk/ London's Industrial Heritage: http://petermarshallphotos.co.uk/ The Buildings of London etc: http://londonphotographs.co.uk/ and elsewhere...... sinar001 wrote: >--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "john dean" ><deanwork2003@y...> wrote: >SNIP >. So it's not just inkjet, but > > >>everything. In that case strong lamination or even better, several >>coats of a good varnish could be the best solution. A lot more does >>need to be done in that area. As far as I know there are no really >>good "scientific" tests that have been published about these good new >>acrylic/laytex varnishes that we use for canvas work, and how they can >>protect prints under very harsh conditions. That Livick guy did do >>these kind of tests. >> >>john >> >> >SNIP > >John: >If you read Wilhelms site closely, he has investigated laminates and sprays over the years. >Basically he has found little value in such products relative to UV fading. > >He has found that products such as Print Guard are effective on microporous papers. This >is probably due to sealing the pigments against oxidation effects. > >John Nollendorfs > > > > > >Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other resources as they are often being updated. > >http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint > >If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish to unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting this same page. > >Please follow these basic guidelines: >- As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to keep them short. >- Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or flames. Hostile, aggressive or argumentative users may be removed from the membership without notice. >- Keep your posts and threads related to the group topic of digital B&W printing. Users who persistently make off-topic posts may be removed from the membership. >- By posting on this forum you agree to abide by the group rules and guidelines, and to abide by the actions and decisions of the group Owner and Moderators. See \ufffdGroup Topic, Rules and Guidelines\ufffd in the Files section: >http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/files/ > >BY PARTICIPATING IN AND/OR POSTING MESSAGES TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO! GROUP YOU EXPRESSLY UNDERSTAND AND AGREE THAT THE \ufffdOWNER\ufffd AND \ufffdMODERATORS\ufffd OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP SHALL NOT BE LIABLE TO YOU FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, CONSEQUENTIAL OR EXEMPLARY DAMAGES, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, DAMAGES FOR LOSS OF PROFITS, GOODWILL, USE, DATA OR OTHER INTANGIBLE LOSSES (EVEN IF THE \ufffdOWNER\ufffd AND \ufffdMODERATORS\ufffd OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP HAVE BEEN ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES), RESULTING FROM: (i) THE USE OR THE INABILITY TO USE THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; (ii) UNAUTHORIZED ACCESS TO OR ALTERATION OF YOUR TRANSMISSIONS OR DATA; (iii) STATEMENTS OR CONDUCT OF ANY THIRD PARTY ON THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; OR (iv) ANY OTHER MATTER RELATING TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP. > >Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > >
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Re: [Digital BW] Re: Lux and Fading
2006-01-31 by Peter Marshall
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