Digital BW, The Print

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> Topics in this digest:
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>       1. Re: Lux and Fading
>            From: "Greg" <dfaprinting@...>
>       2. Re: Re: Nanochrome short term fade test measurements.
>            From: Carl Schofield <scho@...>
>       3. Re: Lux and Fading
>            From: "donbga" <dstevenbryant@...>
>       4. Re: optimizing images for the web
>            From: "Clayton Jones" <cj@...>
>       5. Re: optimizing images for the web
>            From: James Parker <dakota.kid@...>
>       6. Re: Re: optimizing images for the web
>            From: "Ellie Kennard" <colorspanmam@...>
>       7. Re: Clayton and Steve
>            From: "Clayton Jones" <cj@...>
>       8. Re: Digital Black & White printer test site.
>            From: "john dean" <deanwork2003@...>
>       9. X-Rite buys GretagMacBeth
>            From: "edrudolpho" <erudolph@...>
>      10. Re: Lux and Fading
>            From: "sinar001" <jnolly@...>
>      11. 2400 vs 4800 Relative Merits
>            From: "Gilbert Robinson" <robinson@...>
>      12. Re: Lux and Fading
>            From: "lulalake_1999" <lulalake_1999@...>
>      13. Re: X-Rite buys GretagMacBeth
>            From: "Greg" <dfaprinting@...>
>      14. Re: Digital Black & White printer test site.
>            From: "Greg" <dfaprinting@...>
>      15. Re: Lux and Fading
>            From: "scott_now_coming" <scott_now_coming@yahoo.com>
>      16. Re: Nanochrome short term fade test measurements.
>            From: "Greg" <dfaprinting@...>
>      17. Re: Lux and Fading
>            From: "scott_now_coming" <scott_now_coming@...>
>      18. Re: Sihl Iridium Satin-first impressions
>            From: "joshhackney" <joshhackney@...>
>      19. Silver Rag and Wet Ink
>            From: "Stephen M Martin" <steve@...>
>      20. Re: Silver Rag and Wet Ink
>            From: Tom Baker <tbaker1328@...>
>      21. Re: Re: Nanochrome short term fade test measurements.
>            From: Carl Schofield <scho@...>
>      22. Re: Lux and Fading
>            From: "lulalake_1999" <lulalake_1999@...>
>      23. Re: Silver Rag and Wet Ink
>            From: "Eleanor Brown" <elliebrown@...>
>      24. Re: Silver Rag and Wet Ink
>            From: "john dean" <deanwork2003@yahoo.com>
>      25. Re: Re: Sihl Iridium Satin-first impressions
>            From: Carl Schofield <scho@...>
> 
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> Message: 1       
>    Date: Wed, 01 Feb 2006 14:51:05 -0000
>    From: "Greg" <dfaprinting@...m>
> Subject: Re: Lux and Fading
> 
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Walt Mucha"
> <wkm@k...> wrote:
>> 
>> Sorry I dumped on you Wheaties kid. Juat pointing out that you don't
> need a Roland to do outdoor stuff.
>> 
>> Walt
>> 
> 
> 
> I would probably chose a Mimaki with eco solvent inks for that type of
> work, if that's what most of my output was for.
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> Message: 2       
>    Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2006 10:30:39 -0500
>    From: Carl Schofield <scho@...>
> Subject: Re: Re: Nanochrome short term fade test measurements.
> 
> But we need some row labels to be able to interpret the data.
> Example, the CMYV density values for HPRS are in two blocks of 25
> rows each.  The columns are clearly labelled as CMYV, but what do the
> rows correspond to?
> 
> On Feb 1, 2006, at 9:48 AM, Greg wrote:
> 
>> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Steven
>> Karafyllakis" <stevekphoto@b...> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello Greg;
>>> 
>>> Lovely bunch of numbers I'm sure; you wouldn't care to sumarize it
>>> for us non-techie dunderheads, would you?
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Nope! I'm staying as far away from the fight as possible. I almost
>> didn't make the measurements public after the arguing that happened
>> previously!
>> 
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> Message: 3       
>    Date: Wed, 01 Feb 2006 15:31:34 -0000
>    From: "donbga" <dstevenbryant@...>
> Subject: Re: Lux and Fading
> 
> Scott,
>> Also, to test other "coatings" that I haven't seen testing on.
>> 
>> I'm pretty convinced that if one uses Ultrachrome (or UCk3), 100%
>> cotton, and a couple of coatings of a good varnish with UV light
>> stabilizers, then you should have great longevity. But I need to
>> satisfy MYSELF.
> 
> Have you tried Hydrocoat Polyurethane? It works very well.
> 
> Don Bryant
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> Message: 4       
>    Date: Wed, 01 Feb 2006 15:36:04 -0000
>    From: "Clayton Jones" <cj@...>
> Subject: Re: optimizing images for the web
> 
> Hello Siobhan,
> 
>> As I  now finally have high speed internet I am having a web-site
>> created And need to prepare images for it. I am hoping that some-one
>> could give me some guidelines on the best way to do this.
> 
> I use PS-CS and can share my method.  I would never claim it to be the
> best, but it works fine for me. I use a workflow that has good
> WYSIWYG, so when I'm done working up an image for printing, the
> resulting screen image is also what I want to put on my web site.  So
> the following steps are meant to keep the image visually as is.
> 
> -------------------------------------------------------------------
> 1) flatten all layers, discard all alpha channels, saved selections,
> attached memos, etc.  Get rid of all excess baggage.
> 
> 2) change to 8 bit (all work is done at 16 bit).
> 
> 3) insert copyright notice.
> 
> 4) convert image profile to gray gamma 2.2 (I do most work in Dot Gain
> 18 or 20%, but browsers display with GG2.2 so my images would look too
> dark if I didn't do this - so you may or may not need to do this step).
> 
> 5) resize to desired image size in a single step using Bicubic Sharper.
> 
> 6) save as a .jpg with desired filename (my work files are .tif).
> -----------------------------------------------------------
> 
> That's it.  I hope this is helpful.
> 
> 
> Regards,
> Clayton
> 
> 
> Info on black and white digital printing at
> http://www.cjcom.net/digiprnarts.htm
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> Message: 5       
>    Date: Wed, 01 Feb 2006 10:57:19 -0500
>    From: James Parker <dakota.kid@...>
> Subject: Re: optimizing images for the web
> 
> Briefly... Save as JPEG with as much compression as you can before the image
> degrades in your opinion. The "Save for Web" option lets you preview up to
> four different variations including the original so you can see how the
> image changes when you try different parameters. Generally JPEG Medium will
> get you in the ballpark.
> 
> Sizewise, the smaller the images on the page, the quicker the load time. For
> a single image, you can see what the load time might be under different
> conditions in the SFW window, under each image on the left side. Shorter
> times are better.
> 
> JP
> 
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> On 2/1/06 9:50 AM, "DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com"
> <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
> 
>> Subject: Re: optimizing images for the web
>> 
>> Hi,
>> I am a member of the piezography group and have posted on here very
>> occasionally but do have to thank you all for the amount I've learnt  over
>> the years from reading your posts.  (the ones that are not over my head).
>> As I  now finally have high speed internet I am having a web-site created
>> And need to prepare images for it. I am hoping that some-one could give me
>> some guidelines on the best way to do this.  (MAC G4/ O.S 10.3.9/Photoshop
>> CS).  I know PS has the "Save for the web option"  but within that there are
>> various options which I am a little unsure of.   Thanks a lot.  Siobhan
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> Message: 6       
>    Date: Wed, 01 Feb 2006 12:07:56 -0400
>    From: "Ellie Kennard" <colorspanmam@...>
> Subject: Re: Re: optimizing images for the web
> 
> Hi Siobhan,
> 
> Don't forget to convert the images to sRGB before converting to jpg
> or they will look very dull.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Ellie
> 
> On 1 Feb 2006,  Siobhan wrote (snipped):
>  
>>> As I  now finally have high speed internet I am having a web-site
>>> created And need to prepare images for it. I am hoping that some-one
>>> could give me some guidelines on the best way to do this.

Thanks for the input from everyone, I shall give it a go.  Siobhan