Digital BW, The Print

I just ran an entire set of UT2 on my 1280. Didn't really last
long...dunno what was up with that.

BUT, I had no clogs. I did, however, (and would always reccommend when
changing brands of ink) flush the printer with cleaning carts. (Note:
you can refill cleaning carts with windex, so you should only be
buying one set...i didnt realize this at first). 

My printer did have some minor problems under the heads (before
installing the UT2, this was from regular dye ink), I simply folded
over a paper towel til it was thin enough to fit in the track under
the print heads, soaked the paper towel in windex, and moved the heads
over the towel. It may help to put the heads in the higher position
for thicker paper, then when ever the towel, lower them. Let it sit
there for a little bit, it'll soak a little and remove stubborn dried
ink. Don't let it sit too long because the one way valves are open if
you have the carts in and it will draw ink out! Also note, don't force
the carriage over the towel, make a thinner one if it's hard to push
over because you could cause damage to the underside. It's probably
better to make a thin towel, put the carriage in the up position and
move it over (probably not touching the towel at this point much at
all if at all) and then putting the carriage into the down position
for thinner paper. 

you may be surprised and find some old colors from other ink sets that
you didn't think would be there still :) You may also find a  big
black mess. when you start to see where each head is leaving distinct
and appropriate colors, then you know you're pretty much clean under
there.

and this is my general cleaning procedure everytime I switch ink sets.
I use flush carts (never used those things that force fluid through
the heads with pressure, I don't want to break the nozzles). and then
I run the carriage over a windex soaked towel a few times. It really
does a good job cleaning.

I've never had any problems with clogging and I've used epson's dye
inks, cheap 3rd party dye inks, lyson quad tone inks, UT2 inks,
Mediastreet G4 inks, and I'm sure I'm missing some other brand. 

I love my 1280 and will probably always keep it because while I
thought it was expensive....it's really cheap. Epson didn't phase out
old technology replacing it with new technology...they kept old
technology at the same price and just put in new technology are a
retarded high price.

All this BW and fine art printing I guess caught on and Epson realized
they could gouge people for it.

To be honest, I love my 1280 and the 3000 I found in the trash which
I'm eager to see what I can do with. 

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "George Payne"
<mail@...> wrote:
>
> Thanks everyone for all the information on using MIS inks.  However, all
> this discussion leaves me with question for the Epson 1270's.  Do
the 1270's
> have the same problem as the 1280 with the pigment inks?  After reading
> about how well the MIS inks worked on Black and Whites, I just
bought a set
> of the Ultra Tone 2.  I spoke with MIS technical support, and they
said it
> would work fine with my printer as long as I went with a 1280
driver.  Is
> this completely true?  Am I going to have clogged print heads,
beyond what
> normal cleaning will take care of?  Also, I have read about putting the
> Windex on parking pad.  Is this the cotton pad with the multiple
colors of
> ink on it at the left of the printer?  Also, are you supposed to put
a few
> drops on Windex or cleaner under the carts after use?   In other
words, do
> you pull out the carts and place in a few drops of Windex and then
> reinstall.  Sorry, if this has been covered before.  I am not the
brightest
> bulb on the tree, but I am learning fast.  
> 
>  
> 
> My needs for photography are great and my budget is small.  Right
now is not
> a good time to replace a printer.  Also, I read about using Windex.
 Is this
> the run of the mill Windex or is it the non-drip kind?
> 
>  
> 
> Any advice you would have greatly appreciated.
> 
>  
> 
> Thanks,
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> George Payne
> 
> Cajun Images
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> From: Paul Roark [mailto:paul.roark@...] 
> Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2006 10:36 AM
> To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [Digital BW] Re: Problems using Eboni Black only on
1280 for
> B&W prints
> 
>  
> 
> Bob Frost wrote, in part:
> 
> > ... As the 1280/90 was designed to work with DYE inks, it isn't the
> > least bit surprising that it won't work properly with pigment
inks, as you
> > and others have found out...
> 
> If the 1280-90 were the only samples of dye ink printers that we've used
> with pigments, I'd have to agree that maybe dye printers ought to be
avoided
> for pigment ink use.  Some have great luck with the 1280-90, but my
personal
> experience is that it is the least reliable Epson I've used with MIS
inks.
> (Note that many of the 1280-90 problems relate to bad continuous flow
> systems and carts, but I'm excluding that discussion here.) 
> 
> The 1280-90 problems, however, may not be representative of all
Epson dye
> printers.  My 3000 and 1160 lasted for years with pigments.  The 1160
> finally died, but the 3000 was sold as is probably still pumping
pigs with
> good reliability.  The 1160 was also used by me as a test bed, where
I even
> printed with water-color pigments.  So, it had a tough -- but long
-- life.
> Many high-volume printers have used the 3000, 7000 and probably
other dye
> printers for years with pigment inks.
> 
> Now I'm using an R220 -- another printer designed for dyes -- with
complete
> reliability with MIS pigments.  
> 
> So, while I can imagine that Epson might use finer screens or
passages in
> the heads of printers designed for dyes as opposed to pigments, I
suspect
> the problem may be more unique to the 1280-90 than an across the board
> problem with Epson dye printers.
> 
> Of course the bottom line is that with the third party inks one can
simply
> achieve better B&W and more lightfast prints for less money even if the
> printers don't last as long.  The ink price difference is so
dramatic that
> it's cheaper to throw away a printer occasionally than pay Epson's
prices.
> 
> But for those using the 1280-90 with Eboni, be sure to rinse the
dyes off
> the parking pad.  Eboni and dye are not compatible.  My experience
with an
> old 1280 and Eboni was that I had to clean the surface of the head off
> routinely until I rinsed the dyes out of the parking pad.  Then the 1280
> worked for about a year without trouble.
> 
> Paul
> www.PaulRoark.com 
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