Digital BW, The Print

Ginny, YEP, you are correct. 8.5" width is the max for
the R220. But it's a great little printer and so cheap
with rebates,promotions, etc. (~$0 to $99) it's easy
to own several with different ink set-ups, etc. And
with Paul Roarks UT2 inks you can print "quad
-tone"[actually 6 black positions with 3 different
dilutions as I understand it) or BO.   See Paul Roarks
site for this info if you're interested. It's a great
companion site for Clayton's.  I personally like the
Warm set which is 100% carbon with Eboni in the K
position.

--- ginnylady33 <ginnylady33@...> wrote:

> Thanks for sharing all this Michael. It is useful
> for me to learn.
> Am I correct that the R220 limits you to 8X10
> prints?
> 
> Regards
> Ginny
> 
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com,
> Michael Vendrell
> <mjvendrell2@...> wrote:
> >
> > 
> > 
> > --- Michael Vendrell <mjvendrell2@...> wrote:
> > 
> > > Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2006 21:12:34 -0800 (PST)
> > > From: Michael Vendrell <mjvendrell2@...>
> > > Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Re: Epson 4800 vs.
> 2400
> > > question
> > > To: Michael Vendrell <mjvendrell2@...>
> > > 
> > > p.s. BO on the 2200 using either OEM MK (warmer)
> or
> > > Eboni (more neutral) onto uncoated Arches
> Watercolor
> > > paper (either hot press [smoother] or cold press
> > > [more
> > > texture]) produces a very pleasing platinum-like
> > > print
> > > suitable for some images that do not require
> high
> > > d-max or high sharpness.  This is truly carbon
> on
> > > cotton and can look wonderful for the right kind
> of
> > > image. 
> > > 
> > > Arches is sized with gelatin but is otherwise
> > > uncoated. The company has been around since
> 1492,
> > > has
> > > been makingthe paper more or less the same way
> since
> > > then, and Arches is more or less the standard
> for
> > > watercolorists.  I have also used it for gum
> > > bi-chromate printing and it works very well for
> that
> > > as well. It is inexpensive relative to coated
> papers
> > > and there are similar gelatin sized but
> otherwise
> > > uncoated papers  for even less. e.g. Here in St.
> > > Paul,MN the local art supply house "Wet Paint"
> sells
> > > a
> > > re-branded watercolor paper from the UK for a
> quite
> > > competitive price. N.B Watercolor paper sizes
> are
> > > non-standard for the US market and you would
> need a
> > > proper paper cutter if you wanted to cut these
> to
> > > standard US sizes such as 8.5" and 13" widths.)
> > > 
> > > Paul Roark also has some ICC profiles for
> printing
> > > on
> > > Arches with UT2 ink-sets in the R220 - I've been
> > > intending to give that approach a try in my R220
> but
> > > haven't gotten around to it as yet.  If anyone
> else
> > > has tried that - I would be quite interested in
> > > their
> > > results.
> > > 
> > > This is one of the only areas in which I can add
> to
> > > what Clayton has so beautifully put togrther on
> his
> > > site - a true gem...
> > > 
> > > Michael Vendrell
> > > 
> > > --- Michael Vendrell <mjvendrell2@...> wrote:
> > > 
> > > > Ginny, I agree with Clayton.  Your questions
> are
> > > > good
> > > > ones that most of us either want to know or
> enjoy
> > > > reviewing and adding our $.02 worth...
> > > > Michael Vendrell, MD
> > > > 
> > > > --- Clayton Jones <cj@...> wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > Hello Ginny,
> > > > > 
> > > > > >I must admit that the one or two BO good
> prints
> > > I
> > > > > got out of my 
> > > > > >1280 were, indeed, more pleasing to my eye
> than
> > > > > those made with 
> > > > > >my 1800.  They had a very open, warm toned,
> > > > > luminous look on 
> > > > > >Epson Enhanced Matte.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Yep.  In spite of its graininess, BO remains
> > > > popular
> > > > > with a lot of
> > > > > photographers.  Over the past few years
> there
> > > have
> > > > > been several
> > > > > reports of people showing pairs of identical
> > > > images
> > > > > printed with BO
> > > > > and full ink, to laypersons, who chose the
> BO
> > > one
> > > > > because "it looks
> > > > > better".  It has fine qualities, you just
> have
> > > to
> > > > > choose which images
> > > > > to use it with.
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > >What printer would be most trouble-free
> > > (blockage
> > > > > wise) with BO if 
> > > > > >I wanted to print up to 11X14?
> > > > > 
> > > > > The 2200 is a really fine BO printer.  The
> only
> > > > > thing better (that I
> > > > > know of) is the 4000.  It has a more random
> > > dither
> > > > > pattern which
> > > > > results in slightly smoother tones.
> > > > > 
> > > > > BTW, I must disagree with the person who
> > > suggested
> > > > > to go do some
> > > > > research on your own - your questions are
> most
> > > > > welcome.  It's what
> > > > > this forum is all about, so ask all you
> want. 
> > > > There
> > > > > are lots of
> > > > > silent readers who I'm sure will be
> benefitting
> > > > from
> > > > > these
> > > > > discussions, so you are asking for them as
> well.
> > > 
> > > > > This forum is not
> > > > > just for the convenience of more experienced
> > > > users. 
> > > > > That's my .02 worth.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Regards,
> > > > > Clayton
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Info on black and white digital printing at 
>   
> > > > > http://www.cjcom.net/digiprnarts.htm
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
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