Strange. Mark On Feb 7, 2006, at 12:52 PM, Roger Howard wrote: > > On Tuesday, February 07, 2006, at 09:37AM, Mark Savoia > <mark@...> wrote: > > >Why do you say LZW is not? > >Mark > > > >On Feb 7, 2006, at 11:58 AM, Roger Howard wrote: > > > >> ZIP compression within TIFF is generally well supported these days > >> and is fairly effective with 16bit/channel files (LZW is not). > > Sorry if I wasn't clear enough. > > LZW works fine; it's lossless. So is ZIP. But in my experience LZW > on 16bit/channel TIFFs rarely does anything but actually increase > the filesize! Quick example using a 16bit RGB image of a manuscript > page: > > Uncompressed TIFF - 82.4MB > ZIP compressed TIFF - 78.6MB > LZW compressed TIFF - 105MB > > This is consistent with my experience; depending on the nature of > the image ZIP might save you 10-40% on filesize compared with > uncompressed; LZW on the other hand seems to almost always INCREASE > the filesize. > > This may just be a bug in Photoshop's TIFF/LZW implementation for > 16bit, or may be fundamental to LZW, but since Photoshop is pretty > much ubiquitous I use its results as my guide. For lossless > compression of 16bit grayscale or RGB from Photoshop, TIFF/ZIP is > the best option weighing compatibility, etc. Of course you might > decide the performance hit (opens/saves) from ZIP outweigh any > minor storage capacity savings (I agree for flat TIFFs - but I do > use ZIP compression on layered TIFFs). > > -R > > > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other > resources as they are often being updated. > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint > > If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you > wish to unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by > visiting this same page. > > Please follow these basic guidelines: > - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages > to keep them short. > - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or > flames. Hostile, aggressive or argumentative users may be removed > from the membership without notice. > - Keep your posts and threads related to the group topic of digital > B&W printing. Users who persistently make off-topic posts may be > removed from the membership. > - By posting on this forum you agree to abide by the group rules > and guidelines, and to abide by the actions and decisions of the > group Owner and Moderators. See �Group Topic, Rules and Guidelines� > in the Files section: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/files/ > > BY PARTICIPATING IN AND/OR POSTING MESSAGES TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE > PRINT YAHOO! GROUP YOU EXPRESSLY UNDERSTAND AND AGREE THAT THE > �OWNER� AND �MODERATORS� OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP SHALL > NOT BE LIABLE TO YOU FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, > CONSEQUENTIAL OR EXEMPLARY DAMAGES, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, > DAMAGES FOR LOSS OF PROFITS, GOODWILL, USE, DATA OR OTHER > INTANGIBLE LOSSES (EVEN IF THE �OWNER� AND �MODERATORS� OF DIGITAL > BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP HAVE BEEN ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF > SUCH DAMAGES), RESULTING FROM: (i) THE USE OR THE INABILITY TO USE > THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; (ii) UNAUTHORIZED ACCESS TO > OR ALTERATION OF YOUR TRANSMISSIONS OR DATA; (iii) STATEMENTS OR > CONDUCT OF ANY THIRD PARTY ON THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO > GROUP; OR (iv) ANY OTHER MATTER RELATING TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE > PRINT YAHOO GROUP. > > > > > SPONSORED LINKS > Digital wedding photography Learn digital photography Digital > photography college > Digital photography Digital photography web site Digital > photography course > > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > Visit your group "DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint" on the web. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Re: [Digital BW] 16 bit vs. 8 bit storage
2006-02-07 by Mark Savoia
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