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RE: [Digital BW] Re: Da Vinci Fibre Gloss Paper

2006-02-20 by Eric Neilsen Photography

Perhaps they are counting on a certain level of understanding by the user to
apply tools at hand from other applications.  While it is a compromise,
setting density of an image with saturation and level adjustment will
provide end users with the ability to make acceptable prints; and for many
of those users, very acceptable. The more control you give users to access
the controls of ink distribution, the easier it will also be to produce very
poor quality prints.  With the Epson scanner that I have, a 3200, there is a
professional level of adjustments that the user can control.  Perhaps, in
the next set of printer drivers, they will include a professional tab for
those that really want to unlock the door to creative control. That extra
control may however come with a price $$$$, or spelled another way- built in
RIP. 

 

 

 

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From: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Tyler
Boley
Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2006 3:54 PM
To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Digital BW] Re: Da Vinci Fibre Gloss Paper

 

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Steve Kale
<stevekale@...> wrote:
>
> Agree completely.  The only thing that is making me consider one is the
fact
> that I'd like to not be constrained by the ink limits in the Epson driver

I'm still unsure about that. Yes indeed, you can open up the color channels
based on media 
performance, and of course linearization has got to be a benifit. But it's
beginning to look to 
me like lots of ink makes things more difficult for the profiler. I'll know
more about this later. 
So far, the cleanest profiles without problems are coming from set-ups with
very conservative 
ink levels, individual and total. So are we back to Epson driver
performance?
The other thing you can't match is Epson's strange GCR and total ink.
Somehow they only 
allow 100% at rgb 000, so only k ink there, but obvioulsy considerably more
in dark colors. 
So total ink is "variable". The downside to this is there may not be enough
color inks available 
at very dark rich colors like deep browns. You can easily see this with a 3d
gamut veiwer of 
an Epson RGB profile vrs a good CMYK profile, it's very skinny near K. Then
the question 
becomes, how often do you really miss those colors in the real world?
Sometimes all of this is 
just talk.
But the reverse is definitely true, you can't limit more without a RIP for
certain media. If you 
want to print beautiful pastel color on something like a japanese paper,
there may be no 
Epson media setting that will limit enough.
Tyler





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