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[Digital BW] Re: Somewhat embarrassing 220/2400 BO confession

2006-03-21 by how786

Thanks for this information Carl.
Best
Howard

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Carl Schofield
<scho@...> wrote:
>
> The MIS K4 inkset for the 2400 includes Ebony for the matte black  
> option.  Ebony in the 2400 does produce a higher dmax on some 3rd  
> party papers (notably Hahnemuhle Photo Rag) compared to the Epson  
> matte black, but just the opposite is true for epson papers (eg.  
> epson MK give higher dmax on Velvet FIne Art compared to Ebony).  All  
> of these comparisons are with reference to using ABW mode on the 2400  
> - not BO, which is not available on the 2400 (You can specify "BLACK"  
> in the Mac 2400 driver but it will still use all of the color inks).
> 
> Carl
> 
> On Mar 21, 2006, at 2:48 PM, how786 wrote:
> 
> >   Thanks Brian.
> >   Perhaps Clayton can help me out here since he has done so much work
> > on the 200 with BO and I think also prints on a 2400.
> >   I wonder if anyone ever tried Eboni Black in the 2400......
> >   I am still in a bit of shock regarding how darn good the prints look
> > from the 220 BO. It's pretty astounding. I sure hope it doesn't come
> > to me buying a 2200 for large BO prints (!) I'm hoping Clayton will
> > know what I can tweak in my 2400 drivers to at least approximate the
> > lovely look of BO/220.
> >  Thanks
> >   Howard
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Brian Ellis"
> > <bellis60@> wrote:
> >>
> >> "I sure hope it isn't a
> >> function of the Eboni Black simply being better ink."
> >>
> >> I don't know about "better" but as I recall several people here have
> > posted
> >> dMax measurements of Eboni compared to Epson MK and Eboni did in
> > fact have a
> >> greater dMax though I don't remember the difference being dramatic.
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "how786" <how786@>
> >> To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
> >> Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 2:09 PM
> >> Subject: [Digital BW] Re: Somewhat embarrassing 220/2400 BO  
> >> confession
> >>
> >>
> >> OK.  I need some help here. I'm still fiddling around with my 2400
> >> trying to make a print that matches the 220 BO output. (How
> >> bizarre)Right now, I'm getting closer. The main difference is that  
> >> the
> >> 220 BO prints have deeper blacks.
> >>  I'm not sure what to adjust in the 2400 ADV. B&W driver to deepen  
> >> the
> >> blacks. I'd appreciate some help with this.....I sure hope it isn't a
> >> function of the Eboni Black simply being better ink!
> >>  Thanks
> >>  Howard
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "how786"
> >> <how786@> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>  Today, I finally got down to seriously testing and looking at 8X10
> >>> prints made by my 2400 and comparing them to BO (Eboni Black) prints
> >>> made on my 220. I did my prints on Merlin Natural.
> >>>  My surprising confession/conclusion is that no matter how hard I  
> >>> try
> >>> to tweak the 2400 prints in the Advanced B&W mode, I find the 220 BO
> >>> prints more pleasing to my eye. I am in somewhat of a stunned state
> >>> regarding this. That a printer I paid $69 for can make a print  
> >>> that I
> >>> prefer over those made in my $700 printer shocks my sensibility.
> >>>  I am going to try some more to see if I can just get the 2400 to
> >>> match what the 220 is outputing.
> >>>  Best to all
> >>>  Howard
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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