Digital BW, The Print

"However for new images you will probably get better quality from a
camera such as the Nikon D200 or Canon 5D rather than film under almost
all circumstances"

At what print size do you think this is true? I have a 5D and some Canon L 
lenses due to arrive next week (finally gave up on Nikon) and I'm pretty 
excited but I'm not expecting to make prints comparable to those made from 
my 4x5 and 8x10 film scans at any size beyond 11x14  (I'll actually be happy 
if the 5D is just as good, forget about better, even at just 11x14). The 
(admittedly few) prints larger than 11x14 that I've seen from the much more 
expensive Canon Mark II Whateveritscalled were o.k. but certainly not the 
equal of comparably sized prints I've made and seen others make from a 4x5 
scan. The only large (over 11x14) prints I've seen from a digital source 
that can compare with those made from 4x5 scans were done with a digital 
back on a Mamiya body but that outfit cost $30,000. My 4x5 outfit cost about 
$4000 and if I wanted to scrimp it could have cost a whole lot less.

There are, of course, many benefits that can be obtained from a high quality 
digital camera that can't be obtained from 4x5 - mobility, instant feedback, 
ease of use, speed, etc. - but so far better print quality isn't one of them 
in my experience .

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Peter Marshall" <petermarshall@...>
To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, March 24, 2006 4:44 PM
Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Scanning 35mm vs digital camera


>I think the Epson V750 Pro (due in May) is going to make dedicated film
> scanners such as the Minolta ones obsolete, giving more or less the same
> quality as more expensive drum or virtual drum scanners, but with
> greatly improved ease and speed of use.
>
> However for new images you will probably get better quality from a
> camera such as the Nikon D200 or Canon 5D rather than film under almost
> all circumstances. And with cheaper models such as the D50 or D70 under
> most.
>
> Regards
>
> Peter Marshall
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> Greg wrote:
>> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Adam Maas
>> <mykroft@...> wrote:
>>
>>> PanF and similar can outperform affordable Digital. But if you shoot
>>> high-ISO digital will provide cleaner images (especially at 3200).
>>>
>>> Note that the Scan Dual III and IV only produce around 10MP scans,
>>>
>> you
>>
>>> aren't getting 20+MP of info from them. The 5400 will do better.
>>>
>>>
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>> Is KM going to continue making scanners, or did those go the way of
>> their cameras?
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