Digital BW, The Print

Sorry for the intrusion Gary. I have only been a member of the Digi B&W
group for a little while. But I am curious as to why an inquiry into which
method someone chooses to express the digital B&W expression would bring
such scorn? (limited as it was ; ) ) 

Is not this group here to discuss the making of digital B&W images? Must not
they come from some type of capture device? Man, I just moved an enlarger
table with two 4x5 enlargers, a 38x50 vacume frame and table, a 4'x 8'
finishing table and all just so that I could spray my ink jet prints without
over spray going every where. Certainly a little rethinking comes into
everyones life that deals with digital. Is it so much to ask to share a
little insight?   

Eric Neilsen Photography
4101 Commerce Street
Suite 9
Dallas, TX 75226
http://e.neilsen.home.att.net
http://ericneilsenphotography.com
 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Gary
> Brown
> Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2006 3:26 PM
> To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Scanning 35mm vs digital camera
> 
> Enough already, must we go through this topic every other month!
> 
> Gary
> 
> www.pbase.com/garyallenbrown
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "joshscapes" <joshrandall@...>
> To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2006 1:00 PM
> Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Scanning 35mm vs digital camera
> 
> 
> I second Eric's recommendation.  Filim and scanner is a lovely
> combination that produces beautiful results.  And, if ever a better
> scanner comes on the market, you still have your film to rescan.
> When better cameras come on the market with digital, their old
> digital files are still what they are.  NO chance for improvement
> with technology.
> 
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Eric Neilsen
> Photo 2" <e.neilsen2@...> wrote:
> >
> > One consideration is digital crashes, cards burn up, data gets
> corrupted. I
> > would stay with the film and do the scanner route. I just decided
> to get a
> > Nikon 9000 and keep shooting 35mm, and medium format. I can even
> make small
> > positives from my 4x5's that can be scanned by the medium format.
> I have
> > only had one camera poop out on me in the field preventing me from
> shooting
> > with it. I have seen some rather noisy original digital images.
> Once you
> > have the film processed it will be around for a long time.
> >
> > And if you want to make a silver print, you can. No film recorder,
> no white
> > film output with your inkjet. Just the sound of water running and
> a little
> > music playing ; )
> >
> > And you can bring your old work with you into the new media.
> >
> > Film and scanner is my recommendation.
> >
> > Eric
> >
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