John, You suggested that "film is relatively cheap to shoot". Just a comment on the relative cost. My lab just raised the price to process a single sheet of 4x5 to $5.50. I shoot polaroids to proof my exposures. So for shooting a box of 50 sheets: Film (50 sheets) $95 Processing (C-41) $275 Polaroid (2 boxes of 20) $140 Total $505 Brings my cost to roughly $10 per exposure. Fortunatly every exposure I make results in a perfect image (wink wink.) Scott ----- Original Message ----- From: "sinar001" <jnolly@...> To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Monday, May 01, 2006 5:41 PM Subject: Re: [Digital BW] analog/digital Megapixels In this digital world, flexibility is really the answer. While I can proudly say, "film is dead", I completely empathize with Tyler's love of film grain for a "specific look". Sure, film is relatively cheap to shoot, but then you have to process it, then scan it. . . the workflow with a digital camera is so-o-o much easier and quicker. Wouldn't it be great if someone like Andromeda software (http://andromeda.com/main/ photoshop.php) could be talked into developing a grain filter that would satisfy the likes of Tyler, as Ernst has suggested? Then you could shoot digital, get creamy grain-free color images, then convert to B&W apply the grain filter to achieve exactly the kind of look you want. John Nollendorfs --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "john dean" <deanwork2003@...> wrote: > > I know. I just had a client leave here 10 minutes ago. She said, "but > you know, I like noise". There you go. Its a whole different ball > game. Sometimes digital capture is really interesting, and sometimes > it is a total nightmare and you never know from one day to the next > which it will be. > > john > > > > > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Tyler Boley" > <tyler@> wrote: > > > > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, CDTobie@ wrote: > > > > > > ...Higher image > > > resolution, be it in film or digital, sounds like a better idea to me! > > > > Exactly! > > > > Regarding the rest, and the original questions, I guess my point is > > that there are no straightforward answers. The more I do this stuff > > the more I realize any solution depends on a number of factors and one > > approach may suit only a given set of problems. > > If the discussion were severely limited to say, 8x10 prints, or maybe > > portraiture only, or both, things get more straightforward very quickly. > > I made a print here for an excellent photographer, very graphic and > > abstract, motion blur, nighttime, shot from a train window with a very > > small digital point a shoot... she had me make a 30x40. > > It's beautful. > > Tyler > > > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other resources as they are often being updated. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish to unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting this same page. Please follow these basic guidelines: - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to keep them short. - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or flames. Hostile, aggressive or argumentative users may be removed from the membership without notice. - Keep your posts and threads related to the group topic of digital B&W printing. Users who persistently make off-topic posts may be removed from the membership. - By posting on this forum you agree to abide by the group rules and guidelines, and to abide by the actions and decisions of the group Owner and Moderators. See "Group Topic, Rules and Guidelines" in the Files section: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/files/ BY PARTICIPATING IN AND/OR POSTING MESSAGES TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO! GROUP YOU EXPRESSLY UNDERSTAND AND AGREE THAT THE "OWNER" AND "MODERATORS" OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP SHALL NOT BE LIABLE TO YOU FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, CONSEQUENTIAL OR EXEMPLARY DAMAGES, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, DAMAGES FOR LOSS OF PROFITS, GOODWILL, USE, DATA OR OTHER INTANGIBLE LOSSES (EVEN IF THE "OWNER" AND "MODERATORS" OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP HAVE BEEN ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES), RESULTING FROM: (i) THE USE OR THE INABILITY TO USE THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; (ii) UNAUTHORIZED ACCESS TO OR ALTERATION OF YOUR TRANSMISSIONS OR DATA; (iii) STATEMENTS OR CONDUCT OF ANY THIRD PARTY ON THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; OR (iv) ANY OTHER MATTER RELATING TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP. Yahoo! Groups Links
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Re: [Digital BW] analog/digital Megapixels
2006-05-02 by Scott Hendershot
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