Digital BW, The Print

"The
one concession I will still grant 35mm B&W film is the higher dynamic range.
In all other respects I'd much rather start with the cleaner file from the
1DsII.  "

35mm is a technically mediocre format when enlarged beyond about 8x10 so 
it's no surprise that a good digital camera such as the 1DsII  surpasses it 
in terms of technical quality. But a digital camera such as the 1DsII can't 
touch properly scanned 4x5 film enlarged to about 10x13 and beyond and 
probably not to scanned medium format film though I can't speak from 
experience to that.  I recently bought a Canon 5D and two L lenses, hoping 
that the technical quality of that approximate $4800 system might at least 
approach my 4x5 scanned film. It doesn't. I like the 5D for other reasons 
and digital cameras have many advantages compared to large format film 
systems but in my experience comparable technical quality isn't one of them.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Steve Kale" <stevekale@...>
To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, May 06, 2006 2:05 PM
Subject: Re: [Digital BW] analog/digital Megapixels


I can only speak from my experience (very likely a lot less than yours and
yes a very subjective subject I suppose) - moving from scanned 35mm film
(Imacon 848 scanner) to the 1DsII.  There is no way I'd ever go back.  The
one concession I will still grant 35mm B&W film is the higher dynamic range.
In all other respects I'd much rather start with the cleaner file from the
1DsII.

And the P45...ooh ahhh, saving my pennies.  Having worked with this in the
studio, I'm dying to have one of my own.  I'd love to see more competition
in MF digital to bring those prices down!

At any rate, each has its merits and disadvantages.  If I did have a
preference for film I'd sure be stockpiling it though...


> From: Tyler Boley <tyler@...>
> Reply-To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
> Date: Sat, 06 May 2006 16:53:52 -0000
> To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: Re: [Digital BW] analog/digital Megapixels
>
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Steve Kale
> <stevekale@...> wrote:
>>
>> The chart referenced below omits the point that digitally captured files 
>> can
>> typically be enlarged with better quality than scanned film.
>
> Steve,
> Working every day with captures, drum scans, Imacon scans, flatbed, few
> megapixels or
> plenty, and making every concievable size print here- nothing in all that
> experience would
> support that statement.
> I suppose having fuzzy word like "quality" involved might leave an out. Or 
> one
> might say an
> excellent high res capture will enlarge better than a very crappy little 
> film
> scan, but would
> that be "typical"?
> I keep seeing statements like this and wonder why, I just don't get it.
> Besides, some of this is
> subjective.
>
> Tyler





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