Digital BW, The Print

sorry guys, we're just not remotely talking about the same thing. One is not a limited 
version of the other, they are two different things. This suggests that an excellent 
platinum print that really brings that process alive, can be equaled with a silver print by 
simpley limiting the density range to the platinum's.
They have completely different impressions.
Sorry, dynamic range for some of us is not the game. It's just a tool that can be used well, 
or not.
And I don't run my fingers across anyone's prints, or watercolors, or sketches...
A beautiful print is a beautiful print, whatever it is on, whatever it's density range, I still 
don't get it.
Tyler

 --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Roark" <paul.roark@...> 
wrote:
>
> Bruce Watson wrote, in part:
> 
> >... B&W on matte paper is sort of like a string quartet. 
> >It can have really smooth tones, is exquisitely detailed, and 
> >has sufficient range that you don't feel like you need any more with 
> >many scenes. Yet the range of expression is limited. ...
> 
> >The reason people want greater Dmax with their B&W prints is because 
> >they want more than the limited range of expression available from a 
> >string quartet. ...
> > They pursue gloss media for the greater Dmax 
> > because they want that solid bottom end of string bass and tuba.
> 
> > Really, increasing Dmax is about the only thing we have left to pursue. 
> > B&W only communicates though variation in value. The highlight end is 
> > already pretty amazing. The only way we can meaningfully increase our 
> > visual vocabulary then is to increase Dmax.
> 
> > If we could get a Dmax of, say, 2.2 on a smooth matte paper, we'd have 
> > all the range we could meaningfully use, and be left to actually use it...
> 
> I'd have to agree with most of this.  Dynamic range is a major part of the
> game.  Just because it's there doesn't mean one has to use it all, all the
> time.
> 
> Some of the non-dmax issues that remain include fragility of the medium.
> Rub your finger across a Photo Rag 100% black and then rug your finger
> across a Crane Silver Rag (CSR) 100% black.  The Photo Rag is wrecked; the
> CSR almost looks better.  This is a huge plus for the Silver Rag paper and
> others using this new technology.
> 
> Some open issues with the new technology CSR and Innova F-Type v. matte
> paper is whether easy tape hanging is going to be sufficient to hold the new
> papers flat and whether we'll have the glass fogging issue.  My observations
> noted in a post yesterday suggest that the new gloss technology may not be
> afflicted with the fogging issue, but time will tell.  Has anyone tried
> simple tape hanging under glass?
> 
> Paul
> www.PaulRoark.com
>