Digital BW, The Print

Paulo;

I'm doing exactly what you are thinking about; I have the MIS PRO 
7600 equivalents in my 7600. There is no bronzing to speak of with 
any RC paper I've tried, though there is stil a small amount of GD 
on some papers. The MIS inks are a bit less glossy than Epson K3 so 
they work better on less shiny papers like luster or semi-matte. A 
big improvement in my book!

Steve Karafyllakis

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Paulo Baptista 
<paulo.baptista@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Carl,
> 
> I've been following this thread with great interest, and your 
> comments about using the MIS K4 on an Epson 4000 led me to the 
> question: do you, or anyone else, know whether is it possible to 
use 
> them (without the LLK, as in the 4000) on a 7600, and if yes, do 
> these inks give less bronzing and GD on glossy photo papers (not 
only 
> Silver Rag and Innova F-Type but also Epson's Premium Luster and 
> Premium Semimatte) than the original Ultrachromes? Would the MIS 
Pro 
> inkset give similar results?
> 
> I'm looking for a solution to the problem of printing both color 
and 
> B&W on a photo school environment: we have a 7600 in our student's 
> lab, but we can't dedicate it to b&W only. I've been testing using 
> QTR to print on these Epson papers: while the print quality is 
very 
> good, the bronzing is evident, and it is not feasible for us to 
> switch back and forth between photo and matte black, so we've 
> standardized on UC PK black and Epson Photo papers (also, it isn't 
> very easy to get other matte, fine art papers here in Brazil). 
> Although I know that getting a newer x800 series printer would be 
> best, this isn't likely to happen on the near future, due to 
budget 
> restrictions here.
> 
> Also, are there any issues we should worry about using MIS (Pro or 
> K4) inks on a 7600 regarding clogging, etc? The much lower cost of 
> these inks also make them an extremely attractive alternative for 
us.
> 
> Thanks in advance for any suggestions,
> 
> Paulo Baptista
> Escola de Belas Artes
> Universidade Federalde Minas Gerais
> Brazil
> www.eba.ufmg.br
> 
> 
> At 16:16 4/7/2006, you wrote:
> 
> >See my message below to Walt. K4 does have lower gloss.
> >
> >Walt,
> >
> >I'm using the MIS K4 (both in a 2400 and in a 4000, without the 
LLK 
> >in the latter) and CSR
> >does exhibit slight bronzing and GD with both printers. As John 
> >noted a light coat of
> >Printshield will eliminate this problem. The nozzle check patches 
> >exaggerate the bronzing
> >and GD. I've also made comparisons using Hahnemuhle FA Pearl and 
> >Innova F Type. The
> >H pearl surface looks almost the same as the CSR (but on a whiter 
> >paper base) and it also
> >has about the same level of bronzing and GD. Innova F Type has a 
> >slightly glossier
> >surface, but exhibits essentially no bronzing or GD and unlike 
the 
> >other two papers it does
> >not require Printshield treatment. Except for the surface 
> >imperfections, the Innova F Type
> >looks most like my air dried silver prints. Recent discussions 
> >indicate that there are
> >batches with a smoother surface. Mine was in the boxes with the 
blue 
> >label. Note that all
> >of these comments are specific to MIS K4 inks which tend to 
produce 
> >a slightly lower gloss
> >compared to Epson K3.
> >
> >Carl
>