Digital BW, The Print

From what little I've seen, HPDJ130 looks good big and bad small. I'd
guess it's the paper. It's cheap Vs Epson, its economical to operate,
the blacks are superb, but everything else is negative. That printer's
likely at the end of its product lifespan anyway, as surely must be
that HP inkset. 

If it were me, and it's been me for a year now, I'd look for a
new/old/refurb 4000 to devote to MIS pigs ....or I'd wait for reports
on the new Canon. The 2400/4800 is no improvement whatsoever over
2200/4000, except marginally on glossy paper. From what I've seen the
1800 doesn't equal 2200 or 1280/1290 in terms of print quality on
papers other than high gloss. 

The best glossy paper (my own experience and many prints seen in print
exchanges) seems Moab Kokopelli and Costco's Kirkland (the latter is
unfortunatly only available in letter size). Both minimize, but don't
nearly eliminate, bronzing with 2200 and Epson OEM pigments... so
maybe they'd work even better with 1800. I'll be testing them with my
first MIS pigments this weekend.


--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Nick H. Nugent"
<nghin@...> wrote:
>
> Hello Tim,
> 
> A couple things about the HP DJ130.
> 
> 1. Poor fade resistance on matte or microporous paper
> 2. Waterfastness may be a problem for such applications as postcards
> 3. B/W printing is very problematic
> 
> I use this printer exclusively for color work on various swellable 
> polymer media. Some folks say they can get excellent results using 
> just HP's canned profiles, some require custom profiles, I found I 
> needed a RIP with CMYK profiles to get the results I'm after.
> 
> You may want to post questions at the HPDesignjet_Printers forum to 
> make sure you really want to go for the DJ130.
> 
> About bronzing on the R1800. To get bronzing-free prints I use QTR 
> to apply a thin coat of GLOP over the entire print.
> 
> --nick
> 
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Tim 
> Timmermans" <zenphoto7@> wrote:
> >
> > The bronzing on this 1800 is driving me crazy.
> > I've had to switch to matte papers exclusively.
> > Still, even printing postcards or other non fine
> > art projects results in less than acceptable
> > prints. I'm considering getting the hp design net
> > 130. I could use the larger format anyway as my
> > prints are starting to sell pretty well.
> > 
> > Anyone here have experience with this printer? Is
> > is a wise investment? I think I could pull off a
> > trade-in of the 1800 at comp USA so I wouldn't be
> > out of pocket for the whole $1300 or so.
> > 
> > Any thoughts on this?> 
> > Tim
> >
>