Digital BW, The Print

Tyler,

This is very interesting.  I have some "old" Cone prints that are...green.
I think the idea was that they were to emulate bromide papers but, they were
green.  I don't print large prints, an 11 x 15X image size being my largest,
so my Epson 2200 with IP6 works well.  Assuming, arguendo, that I am using
IP6 and its profiles correctly, what improvements would I expect with the
Cone K7 inkset and the QTR RIP?  My favorite paper is Innova smooth white
cotton, which I see is one that produces neutral tones, from the Cone site.
I apologize if this question is too vague, but I am thinking of buying a
2400 for color semi-gloss prints and dedicating the 2200 to a b&w inkset.
Also, any thoughts about clogging, since I may go 2-3 weeks without
printing?  The Epson OEM inks seem immune to this treatment.  Thx for any
help.

Regards,

Ken Carney
www.kencarney.com


> -----Original Message-----
> From: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Tyler
> Boley
> Sent: Monday, August 21, 2006 7:00 PM
> To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Cone v. MIS
> 
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Roark"
> <paul.roark@...> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > > ... There seems to be a preference toward MIS over
> > > Cones B&W inksets. Could someone fill me in on the reason? ...
> >
> > I was reluctant to respond to this.
> 
> Me too, but no one else seems to have expressed a perspective similar
> to mine, so...
> I use Cone inks and have for some time. I also will be doing my
> workshop first with Cone next week. I think it's fair top assume most
> people familiar with me on the lists associate me with Cone. However
> that is only loose affiliation, I have a long time admiration for
> Jon's contributions to digital printing and like the products. He
> knows though, as well as others that know me, I would switch to
> something else in a heartbeat if the prints were more beautiful. I've
> used Cone, MIS, Lyson, all kinds of inks over the years, I'm unfaithful.
> 
> This list started as a place for people to talk non-Cone B&W
> specifically, as there was no other forum. For a long time Cone users
> felt a bit persecuted here and went away. Also, Cone's products (I'm
> trying to say this and stay objective) have evolved to the point that
> they just work. There is very little list activity anywhere. I'm in
> regular contact with other users, they are not on these lists. They
> are printing. You do, of course, hear the occasional horror story, as
> with any product.
> 
> I had many experiences that made me leave the other manufacturers
> behind, they were definitive. I have not posted anything negative
> about anyone's ink in a long time, except perhaps Lyson's mono
> inksets. I'm just not going to do that any more unless I find a
> product is truly a rip off.
> 
> Fortunately there is more delineation between these two company's
> products now, and I really think the competition is very healthy.
> I would strongly advise people to learn as much about the unique
> qualities of the products, and if at all possible get sample prints
> from users at the least. You need to find which is most applicable to
> your needs. The lists are no longer indicative of anything other than
> the opinions of a specific group of people who happened to congregate
> for unique reasons. Their nature has evolved dramatically since I
> wandered into the old leben list years ago without a clue.
> 
> There is no "best", only a best for you, and that could be temporary.
> Tyler
> www.custom-digital.com