Digital BW, The Print

Frank!

I gather that you like the toning aspect of Convert to BW Pro. But 
if you are ready to ditch the toning tab control, then you can still 
use the other excellent controls of Convert to B&W Pro to arrive at 
a greyscale image. Use it only up till the toning part (filter 
effects, film spectral sensitivity, paper/film exposure - everything 
except toning TAB). When you ar happy with the result, convert it to 
Greyscale and you have a greyscale image ready for ABW or QTR. 

There is nothing intrinsically RGBish about Convert to B&W Pro 
(excepting the toning tab). All methods of conversion to BW that 
involve Channel Mixer rely on RGB channels and conversion to 
Greyscale is the last step in that process.

dizpark



--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, FRD <f.dz@...> 
wrote:
>
> Clayton et al.,
> Yes, Convert to B&W Pro does in fact maintain RGB mode.
> 
> If AB&W on the Epson driver is going to wash the tone out, that 
will be very
> unfortunate.
> 
> So the downside to printing in color is lightfastness, perhaps more
> metamerism/bronzing?
> 
> Would Quadtone RIP make a difference?
> 
> There may not be a satisfactory answer, but I really like CtB&W a 
LOT.
> 
> 
> 
> On 9/13/06 9:10 AM, "Clayton Jones" <cj@...> wrote:
> 
> >  
> >  
> >  
> > 
> > Hello Frank,
> > 
> >> >I use ConverttoB&W Pro for all my B&W conversions in 
Photoshop. I
> >> >love the interface and the output. It really shines with toned
> >> >images. I¹m so new to B&W and not having a film background I¹m
> >> >still trying to wrap my mind about the different ³classical² 
toning
> >> >effects and how I can reproduce it with ConverttoB&W.
> > 
> >> >My question is what settings should I have in ABW mode to 
maintain
> >> >the toned look I¹ve so carefully built in PS? Should it be
> >> >considered a neutral print?
> > 
> > I don't have experience with that software but am assuming that 
it's a
> > color image if you can see toning effects.  The ABW mode assumes 
it's
> > dealing with a BW image, and you have to "dial in" whatever tone 
you
> > want with the controls.  Even though the image is RGB, I think 
the
> > driver will do some sort of BW conversion (probably 
desaturation) and
> > then start from there as if it was a BW image.  So your toning 
will be
> > lost and you'll probably have less control over the result (some 
of
> > the grayscale values may change) than if you converted the image 
to
> > grayscale yourself and do the toning with the ABW controls.
> > 
> > The alternative is to not use ABW mode, but print it as a color 
image.
> >  In that case you'll have to deal with color management and all 
that
> > goes with it in order to make the print look like what you see on
> > screen.  This can be done but is more difficult and time 
consuming,
> > and loses the advantages of ease and simplicity that are 
outlined in
> > the article.  Plus, the print will likely have much more color 
ink in
> > it, where the ABW print will have more of the 3 blacks and less 
color ink.
> > 
> > Either way can result in beautiful prints, but they are two very
> > different paths.
> > 
> > Regards,
> > Clayton
> > 
> > Info on black and white digital printing at
> > http://www.cjcom.net/digiprnarts.htm
> > 
> >  
> >     
> 
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