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[Digital BW] Re: HP Photosmart Pro B9180 review at LL

2006-09-14 by Shilesh Jani

Walt,

When used on matte papers, the PK ink has a lower density than the MK 
ink. So essentially you have in order of decreasing density MK, PK, 
and LK. Viola, that is a 3 ink set up. On Glossy (RC) papers, only PK 
and LK can be used.

Shilesh

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Walt Mucha" 
<wkm@...> wrote:
>
> That may well be but I don't think it makes sense. I fail to see 
how using a photo black along with a matte black and light gray is 
going to make any real difference in print quality. Maybe someone 
more knowledgeable than I could enlighten me.
> 
> Walt
> 
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Gary Udstrand [mailto:gudstrand.list@...]
> >Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 10:32 AM
> >To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> >Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Re: HP Photosmart Pro B9180 review at LL
> >
> >Maybe I was not clear, the B9180 uses all three, both blacks and 
light
> >gray ONLY for its B&W prints.
> >
> >
> >http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/readflat.asp?
forum=1003&message=19947954&q=9180+black+white&qf=m
> >========from a thread on dpreview========
> >"> Are you saying the photo black is used along with the matte 
black
> >> and gray cartridges when doing B&W on matte papers, as there is 
no
> >> light light black as there is in the Epson K3 printers?
> >>
> >> I'd assumed that the photo black was used only for the glossy
> >> family of papers ... .
> >>
> >
> >Correct , all three are used on Greyscale printing on all Fine Art
> >media. You can also use all inks if the radio button , "print with
> >composite" is left checked.
> >-- 
> >Neil Snape photographer Paris http://www.neilsnape.com
> >========================
> >
> >g
> >
> >On 9/13/06, CDTobie@... <CDTobie@...> wrote:
> >> >
> >> I find black-ink-only, or black-and-gray-inks-only to not be 
enough: the
> >> tonality is uncontrolled and varies with each media. I find 
color modes that mix
> >> light grays from cmY inks not acceptable for B&W either. And 
printers that
> >> don't offer reasonable life expectancies on matte/art media are 
less than
> >> desirable as well. So, to date, the only printers to get all the 
right elements for
> >> good B&W from an OEM color inkset, are the Epson K3s, and the 
Canon iPF5000. HP
> >> certainly had developed (as noted) multi-gray technology for 
previous desktop
> >> dye ink printers (whether it was an affordable way to print B&W 
images was
> >> another matter), but they appear to have stepped back from that 
with this
> >> generation of pigment printers.
> >>
> >> C. David Tobie
> >> Product Technology Manager
> >> ColorVision Business Unit
> >> Datacolor Inc.
> >> CDTobie@...
> >> www.colorvision.com
> >
> >
> >
> >-- 
> >-Gary
>

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