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Re: new papers (Silver Rag, Innova, 'Muhle) and BO printing?

2006-09-26 by Shilesh Jani

Sara,

If I were you, I would first try the MIS PKN ink on your 2200 with 
Silver Rag (or others). That way you know exactly what to expect if 
you were to go with the 4000. One thing about the 4000 is that gives 
one of the smoothest BO print, even when using MK at 1440 dpi. It is 
much less dotty than equivalent from 2200.

If you are happy with Eboni/HPR BO, you will certainly have the 
ability to keep that on a 4000, along with the PK of your choice.

Epson MK, UC PK, and K3 PK are all warm inksets.

Let me know if you want me to send the print to you.

Shilesh

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "sagaface" 
<sagaface@...> wrote:
>
> Hmmm....nothing in that other post for some reason.
> 
> Shilesh...I haven't yet tried any of the new papers in my 
2200....it's simply a $$ issue for 
> me right now, but I hope to perhaps this coming month. My 
HPR/Eboni/BO printing is 
> such a no brainer and I can't afford too much experimentation, 
though I'm itching to.
> 
> Um....green-warm vs. brwon-warm.....yuck . They both sound awful. 
Does MIS have a 
> more nuetral alternative PK?
> 
> Thanks so much for the dialogue on this....with everyone so geeked 
out on Epson ABW it 
> appears BO has fallen a bit by the wayside. Understandably, I 
guess. But I'm hoping to 
> stick with BO for awhile because my work is so well suited to it 
(high contrast, not much 
> expanse of mid-tones).
> 
> So, thanks once again!
> Sarah
> 
> 
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Shilesh Jani" 
<shileshjani@> 
> wrote:
> >
> > Oh, blush.
> > 
> > Have you tried any of these papers on your 2200? With the 
original UC 
> > PK inks, you are likely to see more gloss differential. In spirit 
of 
> > full disclosure, the K3 PK ink is ever so slightly "green-warm" 
while 
> > UC PK is "brown-warm".
> > 
> > Shilesh
> > 
> > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "sagaface" 
> > <sagaface@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Shilesh...you're my hero. Thank you!!! I love BO on my 2200 but 
> > want larger prints and 
> > > thought I might "upgrade" to the 4000 to use with those papers 
if 
> > someone could tell me 
> > > it might be worth it. Sounds like a "yes" to me.
> > > 
> > > Oh, happy day!
> > > 
> > > thanks again for the info.
> > > Sarah
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Shilesh 
Jani" 
> > <shileshjani@> 
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Sarah,
> > > > 
> > > > For you......just for you, I printed BO on Silver Rag using a 
> > 4000 
> > > > loaded with 4800 K3 PK, at 2880 dpi.
> > > > 
> > > > What would you like to know?
> > > > 
> > > > Superb Dmax (>2.5)
> > > > Minimal graininess visible to naked eye
> > > > Creamy warm color on the warm(ish) paper
> > > > Some bronzing/gloss differential; easily eliminated with a 
single-
> > > > pass overcoat of GLOP (50% ink limit). GLOP increases Dmax to 
> > >2.65; 
> > > > this is the highest Dmax I have EVER measured with pigment 
inks.
> > > > 
> > > > I have not linearized the output, but boy this is definitely 
a 
> > viable 
> > > > option for those with printer/driver capable of BO.
> > > > 
> > > > Best regards.
> > > > 
> > > > Shilesh
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > --- In 
DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "sagaface" 
> > > > <sagaface@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > I keep bringing this up from time to time, hoping someone 
has 
> > tried 
> > > > Black Only printing 
> > > > > with PK and one of these papers...
> > > > > 
> > > > > ...anyone?
> > > > > 
> > > > > thanks,
> > > > > Sarah
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

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