Digital BW, The Print

Shilesh...all your info has been most appreciated, including what you just wrote to Clayton. 
I would indeed love to see the SR print off the 4000...how do we do that? Should I send 
you a self-adressed envelope?

And I will take your advice and try out the PK on my 2200 first. I like the brightness of HPR 
but am leaning towward trying SR because I'm just not crazy about OBA's, even though 
everyone says the issue isn't as dire as previously thought.

Oh....just read your addendum.....hmmm. I wish I knew someone with a 4000 so I could 
test/compare. Well, it's looking like the 4000 for me anyway as I need to print larger. 
Hopefully I will like BO on it as much as the 2200, even if the tone is slightly different.

Another question: where do you put the Topkote and how is it used? A second pass? Is 
there any place on the net that gives a full explanation of how to do this? Completely new 
to me.

Thanks again, and let me know about the print. Very curious to see it.
Sarah



--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Shilesh Jani" <shileshjani@...> 
wrote:
>
> Sara,
> 
> If I were you, I would first try the MIS PKN ink on your 2200 with 
> Silver Rag (or others). That way you know exactly what to expect if 
> you were to go with the 4000. One thing about the 4000 is that gives 
> one of the smoothest BO print, even when using MK at 1440 dpi. It is 
> much less dotty than equivalent from 2200.
> 
> If you are happy with Eboni/HPR BO, you will certainly have the 
> ability to keep that on a 4000, along with the PK of your choice.
> 
> Epson MK, UC PK, and K3 PK are all warm inksets.
> 
> Let me know if you want me to send the print to you.
> 
> Shilesh
> 
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "sagaface" 
> <sagaface@> wrote:
> >
> > Hmmm....nothing in that other post for some reason.
> > 
> > Shilesh...I haven't yet tried any of the new papers in my 
> 2200....it's simply a $$ issue for 
> > me right now, but I hope to perhaps this coming month. My 
> HPR/Eboni/BO printing is 
> > such a no brainer and I can't afford too much experimentation, 
> though I'm itching to.
> > 
> > Um....green-warm vs. brwon-warm.....yuck . They both sound awful. 
> Does MIS have a 
> > more nuetral alternative PK?
> > 
> > Thanks so much for the dialogue on this....with everyone so geeked 
> out on Epson ABW it 
> > appears BO has fallen a bit by the wayside. Understandably, I 
> guess. But I'm hoping to 
> > stick with BO for awhile because my work is so well suited to it 
> (high contrast, not much 
> > expanse of mid-tones).
> > 
> > So, thanks once again!
> > Sarah
> > 
> > 
> > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Shilesh Jani" 
> <shileshjani@> 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Oh, blush.
> > > 
> > > Have you tried any of these papers on your 2200? With the 
> original UC 
> > > PK inks, you are likely to see more gloss differential. In spirit 
> of 
> > > full disclosure, the K3 PK ink is ever so slightly "green-warm" 
> while 
> > > UC PK is "brown-warm".
> > > 
> > > Shilesh
> > > 
> > > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "sagaface" 
> > > <sagaface@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Shilesh...you're my hero. Thank you!!! I love BO on my 2200 but 
> > > want larger prints and 
> > > > thought I might "upgrade" to the 4000 to use with those papers 
> if 
> > > someone could tell me 
> > > > it might be worth it. Sounds like a "yes" to me.
> > > > 
> > > > Oh, happy day!
> > > > 
> > > > thanks again for the info.
> > > > Sarah
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Shilesh 
> Jani" 
> > > <shileshjani@> 
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Sarah,
> > > > > 
> > > > > For you......just for you, I printed BO on Silver Rag using a 
> > > 4000 
> > > > > loaded with 4800 K3 PK, at 2880 dpi.
> > > > > 
> > > > > What would you like to know?
> > > > > 
> > > > > Superb Dmax (>2.5)
> > > > > Minimal graininess visible to naked eye
> > > > > Creamy warm color on the warm(ish) paper
> > > > > Some bronzing/gloss differential; easily eliminated with a 
> single-
> > > > > pass overcoat of GLOP (50% ink limit). GLOP increases Dmax to 
> > > >2.65; 
> > > > > this is the highest Dmax I have EVER measured with pigment 
> inks.
> > > > > 
> > > > > I have not linearized the output, but boy this is definitely 
> a 
> > > viable 
> > > > > option for those with printer/driver capable of BO.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Best regards.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Shilesh
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > --- In 
> DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "sagaface" 
> > > > > <sagaface@> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I keep bringing this up from time to time, hoping someone 
> has 
> > > tried 
> > > > > Black Only printing 
> > > > > > with PK and one of these papers...
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > ...anyone?
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > thanks,
> > > > > > Sarah
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>