I must have picked up this thread mid stream, because I don't know which printer you're talking about and I'm in the market to buy a new printer, probably Epson, for B&W. I almost bought a 4800 today..there was a good trade in on my Pro 4000, but in the end I couldn't justify spending another $2000 just to get started, and that's using Epson expendables. So, I'm looking for a printer recommendation, how do people feel about the R2400? Thanks in advance, Alan _____ From: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com [mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of stephane_bosman Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2006 7:15 AM To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Digital BW] Re: I gave up I found ABW to be unreliable, needing slightly different adjustments depending on the pictures. I also found it not completely immune to metamerism and not always neutral; sometimes with differing tints for highlight, mid-range and shadows. In a word, an improvement over previous situation but not what a dedicated B&W photographer looks for. With ABW you're back to the old test print system like in the wet darkroom, only more expensive. Besides, it seems to be engineered to use as much ink as the paper can absorb. I found it to produce very nice prints on Hanhemuhle Photo Rag, though. But, I don't like that paper much, because its surface is very hard to write on (difficult to sign) and it uses OBA's. It does fade from white to yellow quite rapidly if exposed unframed. I tried to drive the printer with QTR, still using the K3 inks. QTR has a documented way to produce a real calibration, making the printing much more consistent once the calibration is nailed. Although an improvement over ABW, I found the calibration quite tedious because the K3 grey inks are too warm and need a mix of cyan and magenta to get neutral. I find that mix quite difficult to get right. I also got completely fed up with constantly replacing cartridges. The process is designed again to maximize ink waste. Quite often I had to replace extra cartridges because of the priming process the printer goes through after each replacement. I now use Cone's NK7 ink-set with an inkrepublic.com CIS and that seems to be what I was looking for. No metamerism, of course, neutral prints, with perfectly neutral grey on Moab Entrada Natural and slightly warm on Epson Velvet, but in a beautiful way. The tones are very rich, deep, seamless. Much better than anything I have been able to produce with K3. I have yet to see a single clog, even after letting the printer idle 2 weeks. The prints are simply gorgeous. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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RE: [Digital BW] Re: I gave up
2006-10-12 by Alan Kearney
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