Digital BW, The Print

CDTobie@... wrote:
> In a message dated 11/16/06 10:35:07 PM, cj@... writes:
>   
>> Hello Bill ,
>>
>> Thank for the good report.  This has triggered some thoughts and
>> questions,
>>     
> For me as well. Not so much on the "goodness" of Tyler's prints, I have seen those often enough to be aware they are outstanding, but rather on the "badness" of the 9800 OEM print. Nothing about the scan or description of this print fits with my experience of what this combination is capable of.
Yet for some of us the scans and description do fit with our experience.
>  Other scans at similar scale of AWB, Espon Color, and similar setups offer much smoother, more effective coverage than this sample. 
I wish it did, but this isn't my experience.
> So I suspect this dramatic difference is caused by two things: a Tyler "SuperPrint" that exceeds not only typical RIP/B&W ink output, but even what others using Piezo systems manage to produce,
No. I'm getting similar results to Tyler even though I'm not nearly as 
talented a photographer nor as talented and dedicated a printer. I'm 
pretty much using the defaults with StudioPrint and Piezotones and my 
prints exceed just about all my expectations (other than Dmax).

It's more grays, linearization of my particular printer, ink, and paper, 
and a better dither pattern IMHO.
>  and an unusually bad OEM print, one that certainly does not reflect what I am seeing daily working with K3 printers and PrintFIX PRO.
I would say it's more a typical OEM print. And yet another "magic 
bullet" widget isn't going to change the fact that you are printing B&W 
with color inks using the OEM printer driver.
>  So even though the description was offered as being from one "with no horse in the race" both horses were came from the same stable, and appear to be exceptional in opposing senses.
>   
Huh? Tyler is just trying to make the best print he can. He's not 
selling widgets, he's selling prints. What he's saying, and what other 
people are also saying, is that printing B&W with color inks and the 
Epson driver isn't as good as printing B&W with grayscale inks and a 
better driver.

That you don't want to believe it is OK. You don't have to. No one has 
to. We can all prove it to ourselves by running our own tests.
--
Bruce Watson

> C. David Tobie