Digital BW, The Print

Joost,

Really I'm not trying to promote these inks. I certainly don't have a
dog in this fight other than the fact that I want them to continue
offering them for years to come for my own sake. All I can say is
after years of struggle and time I have something that works
flawlessly for me everyday and I never have to worry about some
strange color appearing somewhere in the values that I didn't see
under daylight or whatever.

Fact is, the uniqueness of this approach is that you can change out
the various hue sets easily or even after Ultracrhome wihout having to
flush lines or anything regardless of printer size. You can easily
remove any size cart and replace it with another hue set, all you need
to do is print out a grey scale that contains all the values. If you
are using desktop printers it is a simple head cleaning or two. 

Now as to how many channels one should use and how to set them up that
is a personal thing and I'm sure people will be mixing them in all
kinds of strange configurations. People like Tyler have shown us that
even with 4 or 5 partitions you can create amazing blends,variations,
and splits, so 6 or 7 just adds to that capability.

As for me being ahead of Tyler. That will be the day. He's the 3D Man.


John

  




--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Joost Horsten"
<j.h.j.h@...> wrote:
>
> John, Tyler,
> 
> I get your point. But a question: not having a large format printer 
> myself, I understand that changing cartridges is not something you 
> want to do on a regular basis (I don't care on my desktop 2100). That 
> means you have to choose between a K7 set in a certain tone (warm, 
> neutral whatsoever) or a mixed K3 or K4 set(e.g. K, warm LK, LLK and 
> LLLK, cool LK, LLK and LLLK) to allow for different tones per image 
> or variable split tone curves. That's what I have with UT3D set + QTR.
> 
> Given that choice: what would you choose and why?
> 
> Another, perhaps related, question: isn't there a big difference 
> between the variable size dot 7600 and the older fixed size dot 
> models? 
> 
> Combining the two points above, the better choice would seem the me a 
> dual tone K3/K4 set with variable dot printer like the 7600. Am I 
> correct? 
> 
> Joost
> 
> 
> 
>  
> 
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "john dean" 
> <deanwork2003@> wrote:
> >
> > Tyler,
> > 
> > I've been suggesting just that here for the last few months. It's a 
> no
> > brainer and Roy did a wonderful job with QTR support. When I see all
> > these people fighting color casts of this and that and all the other
> > clogging and related issues I just cringe, because this K6/K7 method
> > is so easy and so trouble free and so smooth and beautiful. So much 
> so
> > that I've got three old 7000 for them, one of which I got for free
> > that is like new. And, they are about to have the  pressurized carts
> > filled for my 10K so that will give me an even larger size with real
> > speed and an extra printer for split toning. Of course you can 
> always
> > buy the ink in bulk too and fill your own MIS or Lyson or Media 
> Street
> > refillable carts.
> > 
> > John
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > K6/7s,
> > > you can get a used 7000, 7600, or 4000 for very reasonable 
> prices, QTR
> > > for 50$, the inkset and be up and going with extraordinary high
> > > quality and good print size for far less money and no hassle...
> > > This of course, after deciding you want that kind of setup.
> > > I had the chance to get a used 7600 for $500 and passed it up, 
> stupid...
> > > Tyler.
> >
>