First off, I have to tell you all that I really appreciate the explanation and advice this post has generate. Roy, you are correct that the description of my situation in the first post was that I had an embedded ICC gg 2.2 profile (which I had set as the default in PS Color Settings). I also had my screen set up with a custom soft proof DD 20 profile with PCN on. I did this, not really understanding what I was doing, because I found that with this set up I could make PS files that resulted in ABW prints on Premium Semi Matte that pretty much matched the screen I was looking at. Over the past day, responding to advice from the group, I have experimented with one worked up image by 1) Changing my PS color settings to grayscale = dd 20 Then opening the file, getting the profile mismatch message, then opting to convert to the working space (ie. from gg 2.2 to DD20) then saving that file and opening it again. At this point the DD20 file is embedded but the file on screen does not look like it did when I was using the DD 20 soft proof. I would have to use DD 10 as a soft proof to get the screen back to where it was. 2) Leaving my PS color settings at 2.2, opening the file (originally saved with embedded 2.2 profile), and then edit>convert to profile DD20. The result is the same as above. I may be shooting for an objective that is impossible and that is supply a tiff with a DD 20 embedded profile (what the potential clients require) and have it look on their screen like it looks on mine when I use the soft proof set up I described above. I.E I would prefer not to make changes in my PS file since they print well the way they are set up now. I think I understand what has been said about the soft proof approach I've used resulting in simply a screen simulation. What I don't understand is why the same device, my screen, looks so different when I actually embed the DD 20 profile as an ICC profile vs using the soft proof with PCN. (If I turn off PCN the screen look changes, which is what I did not like about it in the first place). And I guess that C David's shirt analogy applies here. I think I cannot avoid the step I have been loth to take and that is to embed the DD 20 profile and then apply another curve layer to each image and adjust for the screen look I want. Correct?
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[Digital BW] Re: Profile Confusion
2006-12-08 by rgoldman2
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