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Re: [Digital BW] Re: 8bit to 16 bit

2007-04-10 by Alan Ansell

A fascinating debate this and I might be overlooking something fundamental here, but in an attempt to ensure I am following this correctly: Is this discussion about 8-bit images in what is referred to as 8-bit TrueColor ie that each pixel has a value described by 8 bits to represent its RGB value. If so - or if in some other case - then how can data be considered to be 'shifted' or 'hidden'? If it cannot be described in 8 bits, then surely it cannot exist within the current colour space?

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  Alan Ansell
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----- Original message -----
From: CDTobie@...
To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2007 09:37:40 EDT
Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Re: 8bit to 16 bit

In a message dated 4/9/07 7:46:59 PM, [1]paul.roark@... writes:
>
> >ALL image editing loses data...
>
> Perhaps in some technical sense,
>
Many years ago, when creation of a bitmap editing application was pondered by
some of the experts of the day, the concensus was that a program to
selectively throw away data was not a very interesting idea. Fortunately Tom Knoll did
not agree. The great irony of digital image editing is that losing data can
make an image look better, so much better that its hard to fathom that the
process used to get there was one of tossing image data; be that tossing it out the
window entirely, or tossing it through the cracks in the 8 bit per channel
floor boards, where is might possibly resurface later.
C. David Tobie
Product Technology Manager
ColorVision Business Division
DataColor Inc.
[2]CDTobie@...
www.colorvision.com
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