Each printer is a little different. The relationship is based on this: > > The thing to realize in all cases is that the smallest size > > determines the dottiness in > > the highlights, the largest size times the resolution must be > > enough to provide enough ink for dMax. For the R800/R1800 you need 2880 or 1440x1440 to get the 1.5pl drop. At 1440x720 you need a bigger big dot and that goes with a bigger small dot. The R260 is special in that a 1.5 drop is available with a bigger big dot so it can still be used at 1440x720. You always pick the set of 3 based on the big dot and resolution -- then what size small dot is whatever comes with it. Roy --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Carl Schofield <list@...> wrote: > > Roy, > > Thanks for clarifying the dot sizes question. Is it also necessary > to use the highest print resolution to ensure that the smallest dot > sizes will be used or is there no relationship between resolution and > dot sizes? > > Carl > > On May 29, 2007, at 12:11 AM, Roy Harrington wrote: > > > > > I've got an R260 that I've started playing with -- I expect the > > 1400 is pretty similar. > > The Epson's touting of 5 drop sizes is a bit of marketing hype > > IMO. It's still a 3 dropsizes > > at a time printer just like all the other recent printers. The > > difference is that they > > have more choices in what 3 sizes can be used but you must still > > pick the set of 3 > > before any printing. > > > > The thing to realize in all cases is that the smallest size > > determines the dottiness in > > the highlights, the largest size times the resolution must be > > enough to provide > > enough ink for dMax. The old printers always gave you 3 sizes that > > were consecutive > > like 1,2,3 or 2,3,4 the R260 has 1,2,3 or 1,2,4 or 1,3,5 or > > 2,3,5. Does all this make > > a difference? It's hard to tell. I expect low res, fast printing > > may benefit but for the > > best high res printing it's probably a toss up. > > > > I think one of the advantages of Paul's multi-eboni approach is > > that he can keep the > > ink limits of the individual channels low enough to stay in the > > small dot range but > > still get to dMax because he has multiple channels firing. > > > > Roy > > > > > > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Carl Schofield > > <list@> wrote: > >> > >> Paul, > >> > >> Do you know what the dot size distribution is across the tonal scale > >> for these "1.5 pl" printers? Epson describes the new printers, not > >> as 1.5 pl printers, but rather Dx5 variable drop size. I'd assume > >> that the smallest drop size (1.5pl) is used only in the highlights, > >> but I don't really know that. Here is Epson's blurb: > >> "With DX5 (droplets x 5 sizes), each nozzle has advanced capabilities > >> to discern and adjust the ink droplet size based on the needs of your > >> print job." > >> > >> Can you look at a 21 step printed grayscale and actually see > >> different drop sizes on the print? Could also be resolution > >> dependent where smallest drop sizes are only used at highest printing > >> resolution. > >> > >> Carl > >> > >> On May 28, 2007, at 3:24 PM, Paul Roark wrote: > >> > >>> Hi Myron, > >>> > >>>> For purely B&W printing using 3rd party B&W inks, > >>>> is there any advantage to the Epson 1800 over the 1400? > >>> > >>> I'm waiting for my 260 to arrive. I'll let people know as soon as > >>> I can get > >>> it running with my new approach. Hopefully, I'll have the multi- > >>> channel > >>> Eboni approach running in that under $100 printer soon. > >>> > >>>> Both have 1.5 picolitre jets, and both will handle 13" paper. > >>>> The 1800 has eight heads, while the 1400 has six, but this > >>>> should not be an issue with B&W. > >>> > >>> Yes, 3 channels appears to be all that are needed. > >>> > >>>> Will QTR work with the 1400? > >>> > >>> I expect QTR support is not too far off. Also, I think I can set > >>> up an > >>> Epson driver workflow with the 260/1400. > >>> > >>>> Aside from that, is there any reason I > >>>> should not save the $150-$200 and get the 1400? > >>> > >>> The relative build quality and paper handling will be issues I'll > >>> be looking > >>> at. One the one hand the 1400 is a second generation 1.5 pl > >>> machine, so > >>> Epson may actually have learned a few lessons that will allow it to > >>> improve > >>> the printing. On the other hand, it's cheaper. Some of the cheaper > >>> printers show it. > >>> > >>> Paul > >>> www.PaulRoark.com > >> >
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Re: [Digital BW] Epson 1400 vs 1800
2007-05-30 by Roy Harrington
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