> Ernst, > > I'm not sure I understand your comments. With inkjets there's no notion > of dot shape -- they are just drops out of the piezo jet. I agree that smaller > dots have slightly more dotgain but the linearization and/or gray ICC profile > measure the actual densities and compensate for any dotgain differences. > > I have some of Paul prints and my feeling with them is more of an overall > sandpaper feeling if you get up close to it. One effect that may be happening > in the midtones is that there are two pseudo random dithering patterns from > two inks overlaid. The interaction is more truly random giving the possibility > of dot doubling/clumping on a minute scale. (it's a little like moire patterns but > there's no overall regularity). It may be this randomness however that helps > get rid of banding side effects. > > Roy Roy, whatever dot distribution you select random or ordered there's a point with BO only where half the paper is black and half is white. To reduce the dotgain effect at that point to a minimum one would prefer a line screen of black and white lines and the lines as thick as possible. Horrible for detail and a very dominant pattern. Any compromise to get more detail and less visibility in the pattern results in smaller dots and more complicated patterns including random dot distribution. That will increase the influence of dotgain whatever pattern is selected and around 50% the patterns are sensitive to that influence, little dotgain has a lot of influence then. Profiling should deal with that but climate control in the list members houses still gives variables. Another variable is the paper coating per batch, the printer's condition and printing smaller prints on an A3 printer speeds up the printing while the drying time isn't increased. Individual printers vary so a general profile will lead to different results. In quad ink sets much of this tone effect is dampened by the diluted inks, it will not be like that in BO printing whether with one or multi heads. I think that with BO more attention has to be given to regular linearising of the ink set. Multihead BO suppresses the effects of banding, nozzle defects etc but isn't an answer to dotgain, it actually will increase the influence of dotgain as it forces the heads to the use of the smallest droplet for the resolution selected. Expect a lot of different opinions on what list members get from their printers on BO, not just a matter of taste for BO but also real differences in the prints with everything else being equal. It isn't that I'm against the method but when I wrote about it 4 years ago I immediately realised that it could have that negative effect too. I was also a bit worried about the "CMYK" dot distribution that might not be the best KKK dot distribution. Related to that dotgain effect. I'm curious what practice will tell us, few users right now. Met vriendelijke groeten, Ernst | Dinkla Grafische Techniek | | www.pigment-print.com | | ( unvollendet ) |
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Re: [Digital BW] R1800 Eboni-3 vs NK7 initial comparison
2007-06-03 by Ernst Dinkla
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