Roy, Did you use something special to reveal the data that you shared or is that something available to the common Epson user? And is it something that can be found easily enough? Steves point as well as mine, is why give up complete color control by removing the yellow cart IF you also do color printing just to eliminate a small amount of a possible problem? I can see doing it if B&W is the sole intent with some tinting available, but even still how many tints are now off the table by getting your yellow cart out of the mix? Eric Neilsen Photography 4101 Commerce Street Suite 9 Dallas, TX 75226 http://e.neilsen.home.att.net http://ericneilsenphotography.com Skype ejprinter _____ From: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com [mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Roy Harrington Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2007 2:26 PM To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Ink Comparison of Epson ABW and regular drivers Hi Steve, I assume you are referring to the Y ink being replaced with LLK. If so, yes you get rid of the 0.87% Y but there's more to the effect. I think you'll then find that neutral is shifted quite a bit and you'll need to select warmer in the tone box which will then also reduce LC and LM. Is it worth it? I guess it depends. Roy --- In DigitalBlackandWhit <mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint%40yahoogroups.com> eThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Steve Kale <stevekale@...> wrote: > > Or put another way, it¹s barely worth losing colour functionality (and > reduced B&W toning) for a mere 0.87% of dots! > > It would be interesting to see this analysis run for some other settings > (e.g. warm and cool) > > > From: Roy Harrington <roy@...> > Reply-To: <DigitalBlackandWhit <mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint%40yahoogroups.com> eThePrint@yahoogroups.com> > Date: Thu, 31 May 2007 17:27:15 -0000 > To: <DigitalBlackandWhit <mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint%40yahoogroups.com> eThePrint@yahoogroups.com> > Subject: [Digital BW] Ink Comparison of Epson ABW and regular drivers > > > Since there's been talk about the two Epson driver modes I thought > it would be worthwhile seeing how they compare in ink usage. > The following "prints" were done to a file and analyzed to see what > commands were being sent to the printer. > > Comparison of ink usage from the Epson R2400 with Epson driver > Image - grayscale 21 step wedge > Paper - Velvet Fine Art > Quality - Best Photo (1440x1440) > Both prints use 2 dot sizes, percents are weighted based on drop size > > Epson ABW driver - neutral > total 100% dots 9,763,341 small 2,532,646 medium > K 31.27% > LK 26.15% > LLK 21.03% > LM 12.76% > LC 7.92% > Y 0.87% > > Epson standard driver - Epson Velvet Fine Art profile > total 100% dots 10,393,768 small 2,694,351 medium > K 32.84% > LK 49.40% > LLK 1.29% > M 3.25% > LM 4.39% > C 2.90% > LC 2.37% > Y 3.54% > > Some observations: > ABW uses a lot more LLK --- 16 times! > ABW uses a lot less Y --- 1/4 the amount > ABW uses no dark C and M > > Interestingly this really supports the idea of replacing the Y > ink with a LLK ink with either driver. > > Roy > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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RE: [Digital BW] Ink Comparison of Epson ABW and regular drivers
2007-06-03 by Eric Neilsen
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