Digital BW, The Print

Tim,

What one calls "neutral" is always subjective. I think most of us
agree on that point. Cone calls his NK7 inkset true lab neutral on
Photorag. HP calls their Z3100 mono set up neutral. 
Canon has their definition of neutral. Other inksets have other
renditons of neutral. The Cone inks are warmer, but not as far as a
warm neutral, another category I use. In comparison to them the Z inks
are cooler. But many people say the Z prints are really what neutral
is  but that they may or may not prefer the Cone NK7 color more. I
would fall in the camp of the NK7 being exactly what I want. A lot
more people might prefer the selenium matched inkset. 

By the way there has never been a true agreed upon neutral even in the
darkroom environment as the print color is always effected by which
print developer component one used and with which brand of silver
paper. I don't think I ever made a perfectly neutral darkroom print.
Like the NK7, they were always very slightly to the side of warm.

john 



--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Tim Atherton"
<timatherton@...> wrote:
>
> Do we know how HP is actutally making their blacks/greys cooler (if 
> indeed they are)?
> 
> There's warm carbon and there's neutral to cool carbon, as anyone who's 
> every made Carbon Prints knows
>