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Re: [Digital BW] Re:Be Careful Who You Photograph in National Parks

2007-10-09 by Brian Ellis

Why don't you just get off your Florida kick? In fact you might just try to 
get over your seeming obsession with race entirely. I don't think anyone 
cares what "third world" means to you or what the racial make-up of your 
state is. If you have something to say about digital b&w printing by all 
means say it. Otherwise please keep your racial views and your prejudices 
against  Floridians to yourself.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "djon43" <djon43@...>
To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2007 9:12 AM
Subject: [Digital BW] Re:Be Careful Who You Photograph in National Parks



Tom, you're right, I sounded racist. Bad.

I was thinking about that spamming Floridian who, despite his obvious
ignorance, presumed superiority over a National Park Ranger. The
Ranger was obviously trying to do his job, whether perfectly or
imperfectly.

"3rd-world" does imply race to some folks, not to others (or to me).
Means something different in the West and BBC (I listen to too much of
that) than to you.

 My state is over half Indian and Hispanic, and most of the Hispanic
trace back in America several generations or more. Despite border with
Mexico we  have fewer foreign immigrants than most states. Few of us
leave, so Florida in particular should feel safe :-)

"Aryan," btw, not "arian." "you" not "u" :-)

John

> The Mississippi River needs a fence.
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> John/Albuquerque

> yeah - the mississippi needs a fence to keep u out of our bread
basket. meanwhile, keep your aryian wing-nut comments to yourself.

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> From: DigitalBlackandWhit eThePrint@ yahoogroups. com
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> [mailto:DigitalBlackandWhit eThePrint@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf
Of djon43
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> Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2007 9:03 PM
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> To: DigitalBlackandWhit eThePrint@ yahoogroups. com
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> Subject: [Digital BW] Re:Be Careful Who You Photograph in National Parks
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> Our mystery spammer seems to me to be blowing smoke.
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> He claims the issue was nudity, but his ignoring the detailed
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> regulations that professional photographers SHOULD know about, and
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> that HE admits knowing about (though imagines they're invalid).
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> Fees are commonly charged for commercial photography or films in most
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> taxpayer-owned tourist destinations (San Francisco and Manhattan and
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> National Parks have long been well-known for this).
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> The fees (and penalties) pay the taxpayers for the commercial use of
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> their property (the park). I pay taxes, I own a chunk of National
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> Park, I expect to be paid when somebody shoots pinups on my property.
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> Our spammer knew that and is pretending the issue was a prudish Park
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> Ranger, who he undoubtedly argued with, despite his assertion that
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> he'd been "cooperative. "
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> I certainly wouldn't mind nude models near my camp, but our spammer
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> obviously wobbled describing the situation. Maybe folks wouldn't want
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> nude models and photographers near their kids camp, especially if the
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> photographer seemed to be a jerk.
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> He left a bug-ridden 3rd-world country (Florida) and came to a better
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> place (Utah), doesn't want to pay for the privilege or play by the
rules.
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> The only thing the Ranger MAY have done wrong, if you believe our
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> spammer, was confiscating equipment... but even that MAY be authorized
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> , it certainly is for game wardens.
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> The Mississippi River needs a fence.
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> John/Albuquerque
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> -- In DigitalBlackandWhit
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> eThePrint@yahoogrou ps.com, "Stephen Billard"
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> <stephen@ > wrote:
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> > Well, I suppose it could be dangerous to view a naked body. Or did
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> > prudish?
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> > - Stephen
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> > stephen.sbillard. org
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> > From: DigitalBlackandWhit
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> eThePrint@yahoogrou ps.com
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> > [mailto:DigitalBlac kandWhit
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> <mailto:DigitalBlac kandWhiteThePrin t%40yahoogroups. com>
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> eThePrint@yahoogrou ps.com] On Behalf Of
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> RobLee
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> > Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2007 1:26 PM
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> > To: DigitalBlackandWhit
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> <mailto:DigitalBlac kandWhiteThePrin t%40yahoogroups. com>
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> eThePrint@yahoogrou ps.com
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> > Subject: RE: [Digital BW] Re:Be Careful Who You Photograph in
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> National Parks
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> > I cant believe how prudent people are in USA. affraid to see naked
body,
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> > but...
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> > Eric Neilsen <e.neilsen2@ ...> wrote:
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> > Echoing Clayton, sign your bloody post Stonieorl99.
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