Digital BW, The Print

John,

Would you care to explain "way around this situation" on-forum? I too 
am interested, as I am sure others are.

Thank you.

Shilesh

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, John 
<charleysfabrics@...> wrote:
>
> Alan,
>     There is a way round this situation that may help, send me a 
phone No. and I will call you, or call me in Holland on +31 593 543 
206 and I will explain.
> 
> Regards
> 
> John_e
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Alan Zimmerman <azimmerman1@...>
> To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sunday, 13 January, 2008 10:58:57 PM
> Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Dmax question when switching from photo 
black to matt black
> 
> I print mostly fine art papers ,but some luster and therefore, 
until now , used only Epson Photo Black. I'm unhappy with the Dmax on 
my black only prints on fine art smooth papers. Due to costs, I 
prefer not to continually switch photo black to matt black and am now 
considering exclusively moving to matt black ink. In so doing, 
according to this group, I will lose my ability to print luster type 
papers.on my Epson 7600. My question is, will I actually see dramatic 
improvement in DMAX on fine art papers BO on my 7600 and will color 
prints benefit in any visible way with the switch to matt black.
> Any comments on experiences by readers would be welcome.
> Thanks,
> Alan ZImmerman
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: Frank Jay 
> To: DigitalBlackandWhit eThePrint@ yahoogroups. com 
> Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 1:24 PM
> Subject: [Digital BW] Dmax question
> 
> With all the talk about Dmax I am wondering is this dmax actually 
measured by most users with a densiometer or is it perceptual Dmax as 
experienced by how the prints actually look framed, matterd , hung 
and viewed at a normal viewing distance. Normal being a few feet away 
as oposed to abnormal with someone's nose stuck to the glass and 
pixel peeping. 
> 
> I have read a few articles by Caponigro and he mentions often about 
the amount of ink that is being put down by certain drivers and 
printers and how that affects Dmax. If a paper has let's say a Dmax 
of 3, (just for an arbitrary number) and your printer is not laying 
down enough ink to get the the 3 , then you will never experience the 
full potential of a high Dmax paper being your printer can't achieve 
it. Or will you?
> 
> I have seen several posts where the poster is trying different 
papers and saying that they don't like the Dmax of certain paperss 
and then try another paper with a higher Dmax. It is seemingly almost 
like climbing the Dmax ladder with no satisfaction on any rung on the 
way up. Is it the printer, or the printer settngs as to the amount of 
ink being laid down, or is it actually the Dmax itself or is it 
perceptual and personal preferences
> 
> I have also seen posts where one poster like the Dmax of paper A, 
another poster with the same printer does not like it and has to use 
paper B to get the blacks they want. Should or should not both the 
same printers, using the same inks should acheive the same Dmax, or 
again..is it the individual characteristics of each printer and/or 
the personal preferences of the viewers. 
> 
> I am reading this posts very closely because I am about to make a 
few hundred dollar purchase of papers, and being a lot of companies 
don't make sample packs of all their papers, I do not want to make 
mistakes and waste a lot of money on papers that don't produce the 
results I want. 
> 
> Any help or comment that will give me a better understanding of 
Dmax, be it measured or perceptual will be appreciated.
> thanks
> Frank
> 
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ones who won't be chasing their own arses."
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