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Re: 1800-3MK+Glop+PK

2008-02-10 by Sarah Renkes

Thanks for that distinction. I have a feeling that what grain there is in either the matte or 
glossy prints won't be objectionable to me in the least, coming from single channel BO 
where there is a lot.

I still don't have an r1800 yet...probably about another month. Meanwhile, I wonder if I 
should wait for the r1900, which I read is supposed to be even smoother. I do get a little 
flustered with the endless printer model parade. I can't seem to catch up. I just want a 
system that is truly viable for what I'm looking for, and your MK3 workflow seems to fit the 
bill. I guess I should just quit reading about the newer model and be done with it. Erg!

Sarah



--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "pr_roark" <pr_roark@...> wrote:
>
> The "grain" in the 3-MK midtones is relatively the same for matte and 
> glossy, in that they use the same curves at that point.  With the 
> glossy papers, the contrast is a bit more, so the visibility of the 
> grain is also a bit more.  The large dmax on Crane Silver Rag that I 
> reported, however, is due to the PK + Glop, and there is no PK in the 
> midtones.  So, the dmax difference is more than the graininess 
> difference.
> 
> In actual prints, few have noticed the grain in the matte 3-MK 
> workflow.  Nonetheless, as is shown in the 1600 dpi scan at 
> http://www.paulroark.com/BW-Info/R1800-Image-Structure.pdf , it's there.
> 
> Paul    
> www.PaulRoark.com 
> 
> 
> 
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@...m, "Sarah Renkes" 
> <sagaface@> wrote:
> >
> >  "The main disadvantages are that the 3MK process does have a bit of 
> a grain pattern in 
> > the midtones, and a second pass through the printer is needed."
> > 
> > Paul, do you mean grain in just the glossy prints or in both matte 
> and glossy?
> > 
> > Sarah
> >
>

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