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K7 gloss was Re: 1800-3MK+Glop+PK

2008-02-22 by Tyler Boley

Paul, I'm still perfecting things, and each paper so far is different
and requires different ink percents, different GO in the go down, and
different GO overprint. In fact, it may not be absolutely perfect by
the time the samples go out. I'll think I've nailed it, then a
different image will show some little problem.
This is a major reason for the samples- feedback to see if I should
proceed.

Needless to say, my dmax will be nothing near the 3+ you have
reported. But of course I'm juggling more grays.

I'm not seeing roller markes here, but wonder about the mechanics of
these different printers.

By far, to my biased eye, the most beautiful prints coming out of here
for people are the matte prints. Not all of them, but some just
succeed in a way the gloss does not, that elusive something extra.
The other beautiful prints around here- Silver gelatin.
Tyler


--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "pr_roark"
<pr_roark@...> wrote:
>
> Tyler,
> 
> Do you have any spectro readings on the K7 gloss inkset?  I'm just 
> curious how they compare to the UT-RC inkset I set up.  It's at 
> http://www.paulroark.com/BW-Info/R260-BW-GS-Eps.pdf including some 
> graphs of the print tones on various papers.
> 
> This RC inkset is what I've recommended in the past to those who want 
> glossy printing in the 1800 as well as the 3-MK matte printing.  At 
> this point, I would probably still recommend it over the MK+Glop I'm 
> experiementing with.  Being the most recent glossy-compatible insket 
> I've mixed, it has the tones and ratios that I'm leaning toward for 
> that type of (blended) monotone inkset.  There are 3 tones and 2 
> midtone dilutions for each.  It's for the 1.5 pl printers.
> 
> Additionally, I must note on my glop experiments that I was getting 
> roller marks on some images.  These marks were not the pin-hole type 
> of pizza wheel tracks I'm accustomed to.  I printed a matte print on 
> the 1800 and was rather disturbed to see the tracks on the matte 
> paper also.
> 
> So, I cleaning the rollers by running a piece of EEM through the 
> printer with an ammonia spray across the center of the paper.  Then a 
> number of plain paper sheet were run through the printer to dry 
> things.  The bottom line on the cleaning is that lots of ink and 
> probably glop came off the rollers.  A similar cleaning procedure on 
> a 220 that I've  been using a lot for experimentation on various 
> inksets, most recently the Eboni-6 -- but never the glop overcoating 
> approach -- showed no fouling of the rollers at all.  I think those 
> who use glop heavily might want to regularly clean their rollers.
> 
> Every time I go down this glossy road, I end up coming back to matte.
> 
> I'll keep up the experimenting just because the new papers are 
> interesting but my serious printing remains 100% matte paper.
> 
> Paul   
> www.PaulRoark.com
>

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