Dear all, Lately I have been exchanging emails with Ctein * on the subject of rezzing-up and upsampling and resolving what Jeff Schewe and the late Bruce Fraser have basically said: «If the native resolution of an image fall between 180 and 480ppi, just sent the file to the printer» After reading his emails a few times, I decided to share with you his observations, which, IMHO, may be of interest to the members this list. As for myself, I think I've learned a lot from his emails and will certainly review the way I print. "Dear Andre, Broadly, I agree with Schewe and Fraser. 180 PPI is a bit low for my taste for smaller prints (up to 11 x 14). I've got pretty sharp eyes and I can see the pixelation at that resolution. 240 PPI and above really isn't a problem. If you're talking about larger prints, 180 would be fine. As for the high end, there's really no reason to ever resample, unless your computer is choking on the size of the file. It doesn't matter whether you send the printer 500 PPI, 1000 PP or even 2000 PPI; it'll simply print as much detail as it can and that's it. Related to that is the "base resolution" issue. That term is something of a misnomer with modern printers. All of the "photo-quality" printers can reproduce considerably finer detail than 300/360 PPi. Even the Epson 2200, the least sharp printer I've tested in the past five years, reproduced 450 PPI; the best printers I've used can reproduce 800-1000 PPI worth of fine detail. If I have a higher resolution file, I would never down-sample it to a mere 360/300 PPI for output; I would just be throwing away detail. There are VERY subtle artifacts that turn up with "non-native" PPI's, but I can only see them in carefully designed and very artificial test charts and they're down near the single-pixel level. They're completely invisible in a regular photograph. It's an entirely ignorable effect with modern printers. ~ pax \ Ctein" ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- It's just Ctein, no "Mr." in front of it. We're all friends, here. I'm glad I could be of help. Yes, there is a lot of old, obsolete "wisdom" out there. Plus there is some accurate yet misleading testing going on as well. Some folks use special test targets to determine the point where the printer starts introducing artifacts into the image and assert that that's limiting resolution of the printer. That's only true if you're using it for scientific purposes where you need 100% perfect fidelity of reproduction. From a photographer's point of view, the limiting resolution is the one where throwing finer detail at the printer doesn't give you any more detail in the print, and that's several times finer detail than the level at which no distortions at all occur. ~ pax \ Ctein ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I don't believe I wrote anything particularly embarrassing [ smile ], so feel free to quote me. I read Mike's column at the link you provided, and I think he gives a pretty good assessment of the situation. There is one important point he didn't mention; printing to a dye-sublimation printer is different from printing to an inkjet printer. There are good reasons to re-sample an image to the native resolution of a continuous tone printer like dye-sublimation, because they really do operate with a fixed pixel pitch. There is never an advantage that I can see to downsampling an image to the "native resolution" of an inkjet printer. Sending less detail to the printer just to match the native resolution will always produce a less detailed print and won't make a visible difference in terms of odd artifacts. ~ pax \ Ctein * Ctein is a photographer, master printer and scientist. He has a double degree from Caltech in English and Physics. Mike's column refers to Mike Chaney.
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Ctein on rezzing-up and upsampling
2008-06-03 by Andre Moreau
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