Phil, > I have been experimenting with an ink set of several > grey shades (MIS Eboni along with LK,LLK, LLLK) > and 2 diluted toners ( LC & LM). > I am getting very nice results, but have > longed for a more dimensional split tone. > While I am able to get a split tone...I always > wonder if there is a better way. That's one of the tools in our quiver. My more recent PDFs -- like http://www.paulroark.com/BW-Info/UT14.pdf -- contain graphical "pictures" that show the nature and extent of the split-tones that the various inks have. Even monotone, 100% carbon inks have split tones that vary with what paper is used. > My question is about the varied ways I might achieve this. > I am less interested in Archival than I am in great looking with reasonable stability... > You have mentioned MIS magenta as not so good...how bad is it? Much better than a common dye. It's not bad. However, note that I use R800 blue in the toners, not MIS M, in my recent blended inkset like UT-14. You could probably dilute R800 Blue with the generic, home-brew, base such as what I use for Carbon-6. See http://www.paulroark.com/BW-Info/Ink-Mixing.pdf > My assumption is that a > blended approach with MIS inks surely cannot be much worse > than Epson's and Wilhelm's figures with B&W longevity. My MIS blends consistently beat the Epson OEM "ABW" mode test strips that were used as standard in my fade testing. These are all good inks. > Here is how I am currently getting a split tone, > but wonder if there is a better way... > I am seeking my personal holy grail of custom inksets. And it may vary with time and be different for different uses and tastes. It really is the personal journey that matters. > 1. I have made multiple QTR profiles(warm, neutral, cool etc). > In making the QTR profiles, > I have specified custom Photoshop curves for the toner > to lay proportionally more toner in > the shadows to compensate for the greater grey density > in the shadows. > This helps get a better definition of tone throughout > the tonal range without over doing the toning in the > highlights. > 2. In QTR, I am then using the blending feature to be > able to tone the shadows, midtones > and highlights somewhat differently. And yes, > I am getting a subtle split tone. Quite nice actually. > Is there any advantage or disadvantage to doing a > blended ink approach? or can I achieve > the same results with my above approach? If you're asking the pros and cons of blended carbon + color inksets with separate carbon inks and light pure color toners like LC and LM, both have their place. In large format printers I have had trouble with ink tone shifts due to ink separation with MIS blended inksets. This only happens when a printer sides idle for more than a few days. So, in larger format printers I do not recommend blended inksets for individual photographers who do not use their large printers on a regular basis. Blended inksets generally do fine on desktop printers, both because the carts get lots of agitation when the printer is used, and the printers are more likely to be used regularly. Blended inks are smoother because the carbon tones down the high gamut colors. Blended inksets may be easier to profile due to the very low gamut of the cool inks. Also, one most of my variable-tone inksets we only vary the tone along a single axis, not that three dimensional RGB space. Monotone inksets, including the carbon ones I now use, are the smoothest and easiest of the bunch. They too can have split tones of different types. Knowing how to use spectros and compare the Lab A and B graphs of different inksets and split tones is the easiest and most accurate way I know to communicate and compare these things. > ... why are you currently avoiding blended carbon with toner inks? The 100% carbon inks I'm using are, in my view, the most archival, simplest, and cheapest there are. And I like the way they look. I like the purity of the medium. I like the "color managed" workflow. I like the lack of glogs, color artifacts, concerns about color batch differentials. I still prefer matte paper. "Carbon on cotton" has been the goal for a long time, and I'm very happily there (well, almost and not that there won't still bee some improvements in the future). Paul www.PaulRoark.com
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Re: Ink set for subtle split tones...Question for Paul Roark
2008-07-30 by pr_roark
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