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Re: [Digital BW] Re: Jon Cones Inks vs MIS inks?

2002-02-09 by Michael Kravit

Nodbo

Without getting into the technical aspects of why it occurs, you can avoid loosing data in your images and spiked histograms by working in 16 bit mode. Try to make all curves and levels adjustments in 16 bit mode.

There are a number of techniques to do this that have been discussed on this list.. A search should provide some useful information.

Mike
----- Original Message ----- 
  From: flyfishingusa2002 
  To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, February 08, 2002 9:56 PM
  Subject: [Digital BW] Re: Jon Cones Inks vs MIS inks?


  Since I started this thread with a couple of technical questions, 
  one of which has gone unanswered! I feel I have some unbiased and 
  first hand experiance in the MIS vs Cone flame, which incidently I 
  did not intend to happen. 
  I have recently called tech support for both companies, within the 
  last few days. I had fairly prompt service from both of them and 
  good answers to my questions. 
  Why is it that some of the members of this forum wish to knock one 
  companyh or the other? Seems pointless to me. This thread along with 
  most of the other similar threads need to go to the trash bin. Its a 
  pity that Yahoo does not have a filter so one could filter out 
  replies by particular individuals. I would use it for one.

  My technical question that has gone unanswered is why the Histogram 
  has spikes and gaps in it after I convert it to grayscale, yes I can 
  make corrections with gausian noise, but seems  that softens my 
  image. Does anybody now a better way? I have tried various workflows 
  on the same image and always end up with the same "Chopped and 
  shuffled" Histogram. 

  As a new user of B/W printing I would like to say thanks to all the 
  forum members who have provided a wealth of technical information in 
  the archives, whats even better its free! Worth a special mention is 
  Joe Cones "Shadows technique", not in the forums, but on their web 
  site which I got to via this forum. 

  Nodbo



  --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., "Paul Roark" 
  <paul.roark@v...> wrote:
  > Phil,
  > 
  > You wrote:
  > 
  > >The inks may be compatible and interchangeable, as many people on 
  this
  > >list have found, but one major difference is that with the Cone 
  system
  > >you get tech support, ...
  > 
  > How much tech support is needed for the inks v. the software?  I 
  think the
  > only tech support I ever required was software-related, and that 
  should be
  > there if one uses the Piezo software, regardless of the inks used.
  > 
  > If tech support is needed for inks, why?  Sure, there may be 
  general
  > questions about the best practices with respect to pigments in 
  order to
  > avoid problems and get good results, but what does Cone Editions 
  supply that
  > this and other forums don't, as a practical matter, supply to 
  anyone
  > regardless of product used?
  > 
  > (This is not intended to be a loaded or rhetorical question.)
  > 
  > Paul


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