First and of the utmost importance. We need to coordinate your "Put a bullet in a Dell" day with my "Call an Airstrike on Round Rock" festival. Have your people call my people. Secondly, Microsoft is letting manufacturers' market what they call a "Vista downgrade to XP." We just brought a new Toughbook 30 online. It came with XP Pro installed with a Vista Business disk included should we decide to "upgrade." Possibly when pigs fly. Most of our software support is not even providing input other than to say, reload your XP Pro. I started with DOS also and one thing you could say about that OS. It sure discouraged amateurs. Vista was a very simple case of fixing something that was not broken and it was all about profit. _____ From: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com [mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Shoshanna Moser Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2008 7:14 PM To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Vista v. XP?? Tom, this is another of those areas in which you'll no doubt encounter fierce opinions, and while I've no intention of wasting time or energy debating the issue, I'll be glad to share with you my experience. After having used XP since its introduction, and having considered it the best ever release of Windows (I've used computers since '83, and well remember when major advances in DOS were heralded as miracles), I finally, this spring, wound up with two high-end HP laptops equipped with Vista. I'll spare you the horrifying details of the month and a half I spent in "Dell Hell", resulting from the obscenely premature death of a 3-month-old $5,000 Dell laptop, but when it was finally over-- at least until my proposed national holiday, "Put-A-Bullet-In-A-Dell" Day, gets off the ground-- I went to HP. The two laptops run very well, but they run on Vista, and I loathe it. I'm convinced that Microsoft designed and intended Vista for people who use it to play games, send and receive badly spelled email, download a little porn, and perhaps share their truly dreadful photos of their kids with other people who take equally dreadful photos of their own children. Inotherwords, the 90% of the home PC-owning population for whom the computer is a toy with which to play, rather than a tool with which to work. The OS is so voraciously power-hungry, and its own absurdly unnecessary (but "cool"-- don't forget "cool"!) bells and whistles are so demanding, that the standard 1 or 2 gigabytes of RAM with which it's usually equipped cannot handle much beyond those minimal requirements placed on it by the average user. In each of my laptops I have 4GB RAM, and a version of the OS that allows every bit of it to be accessed. Despite this, I have problems in Photoshop (CS3) that never occurred with XP. When working with a file of more than 500MB (pretty common) or with more than 50 layers (ditto!), there are problems. Vista also has intermittent issues with all three of my Epsons, Corel Painter (the other major graphics app I regularly use), and several longtime favorite plugins for Photoshop (which I've used since '92) will no longer run at all. (They worked perfectly in XP.) Although I bought a new Intuos graphics tablet a couple of years ago, my older version-- a 9x12"-- will not work properly with Vista, despite having downloaded new drivers and a boatload of patches. Vista is a step backward, not forward. Its appearance is slicker, but its usability is atrocious, and for someone who places a lot of demands on his or her system, it's a nightmare. The less you play and the more you work, the worse it becomes. Best wishes, Shoshanna Gold Beach - South Coast of Oregon http://www.pbase. <http://www.pbase.com/shoshanna> com/shoshanna http://mindworksunl <http://mindworksunlimited.com/shoshannaspeak/> imited.com/shoshannaspeak/ Tom Fielder wrote: > > I've noticed occasional references to Vista and also to XP. Does anyone > have experience with both? Are you able to opine as to which operating > system is best for photos? > > BTW, I also own Macs so let's not open the war. I'm only wondering about > Vista vs: XP. > > Many thanks, > > Tom > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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RE: [Digital BW] Vista v. XP??
2008-08-04 by Robert W Shearer
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