Digital BW, The Print

Thanks Michael..I've been pondering tossing the 2200 but it's (almost)
always delivered more than hoped for when I really tried. 

My beefs have been the gloss differential and bronzing... until
recently.... I've realized (partially thanks to Cone) that I've got
more detail in my 83mp files than 2200 will print to mere 12X18 .

Anyhow, my B&W # 12X18 are grain sharp (scans) but 14.5mp digital
holds more so I'm thinking 2400...no need for bigger, but I do want
panorama, which 3800 won't handle. 

Maybe needless to say, I want to use QTR or similar because I want one
printer for color and B&W.

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Michael T.
Murphy" <uriel_bear@...> wrote:
>
> I expect that Jon has a great ink set.  It is just that it is a bit 
> new and untested.
> 
> I have to say I give him a lot of credit for being honest and 
> forthright about the quality of his inks, and in not stinting in 
> praise of Epson inks.  Unlike many of the amateurs that like to slam 
> Epson, etc. and make unfounded claims for the most generic of clone 
> ink sets. ;>)
> 
> I am using a cheap CIS for my Epson 2200. One of the $50 units off of 
> Ebay.  They are probably OK if you get them set up right the first 
> time. 
> 
> Unfortunateky I tinkered with mine a bit, and had every connection 
> and tube come undone.  I finally got it working OK, but I would not 
> rely on it too much.  I was just playing with the 2200 though, I have 
> 2 7600's and a 9600 for more serious work.
> 
> Probably worth investing in one of the better CIS' if you are going 
> to use it heavily.
> 
> The K3 inks can yield a good gloss on the newer baryta papers.  Neil 
> Snape has posted a bit on the most recent addition, the Hahnemuhle 
> Photo Rag Baryta (you have to read that name carefully, it is similar 
> to other Hahnemuhle names.)  It is supposed to have excellent dmax, 
> no bronzing, no gloss differential, no OBA's.  Not yet available in 
> the US though.
> 
> Otherwise you can achieve excellent reults with the Hahnemuhle Fine 
> Art Baryta, Epson Exhibition Fiber, Harman Glossy FB Ai, or Ilford 
> Gold Silk.  They will require spraying and are quite delicate when 
> wet, but really great papers.  We are quite lucky to have them.
> 
> I also like the Innova F type Glossy Warmtone for B&W.  It does need 
> spraying to eliminate gloss differential. 
> 
> I have mixed a version of the Epson K3 PK, LK, and LLK inks into a 5K 
> ink set plus GLOP that looks decent.  I use a light GLOP on first 
> pass, then a second pass of full GLOP.  A method devised by Paul 
> Roark, Tyler, et. al.  
> 
> I stil have to mix a toner for the 7th channel to get the look I want 
> for those inks. That was more of a side project. I still need to 
> figure out a production ink set, probably Cone.
> 
> Anyway, either Jon's Cone Color inks or the Epson K3 should be able 
> to make a good glossy B&W print with a little extra work.  I think 
> the HP Z3100 with the GLOP channel is a little easier, but given that 
> we are running older (and much cheaper) technology the results are 
> wonderful.  I hope that is on topic?
> 
> Best,
> Michael
>