Digital BW, The Print

Mike,

Thanks for your reply. About your advice:

1) Does 1440 dpi (instead of 2880) also affects the tone? I thought it
only related to sharpness.
(Btw, I upgraded to driver v 6.5, which has a somewhat different
interface. The options for Dpi are "Superphoto 2880x1440 dpi" or
"Superfine 1440x720 dpi")

2) About Intent/Perceptual: following the advice on the site of Eric
Chan, I
switched off the Color Management in PS. In PS CS, which is what I
use, that can be done by, in the Print Preview, choosing "Printer
color management" in the Print space/Profile menu. But if I do so, the
Intent is grayed out, so I can not set it to "Perceptual". 
So what should I do? Leave the Print preview settings as described? of
choose some profile(which one?)and set Intent to "Perceptual"?


3) > Its trivial to build a profile.
By trivial, you mean easy? (sorry, english is not my native language)

Thanks,

Igor






--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Michael King"
<drmrking@...> wrote:
>
> Ok so that recommendation is crap VFA is far too heavy ink load for HPR
> which is why you have the shadows problem.
> The 4800 recommendation is the following - try using that - I find
it works
> fine on 4800 and I am sure it will be good for 3800.
> Watercolor Paper - Radiant White, 1440 dpi, Matte Black, Perceptual
> 
> Without a profile set to ABW to "dark". This is approximately
correct for a
> gamma 2.2 image.
> 
> If you take the trouble to build a profile use normal setting. Its
trivial
> to build a profile as you have a spectro and you can still use ABW
with it.
> 
> Mike
> 
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> 2008/9/6 Igor Wesdorp <iwesdorp@...>
> 
> >   Mike,
> >
> > > Did you check which paper setting is recommended for Photo Rag by
> > Hahnemühle? I would use the same paper setting for ABW set to normal.
> >
> > Hahnemühle* recommends "Velvet File Art" as paper setting for all its
> > fine art
> > papers. So this is what I used, and wether I print with Tone/Dark,
> > Normal or Light, the blacks remain crappy, with no or hardly visible
> > separation between the 2 darkest steps in the wedge.
> >
> > *
> >
http://www.hahnemuehle.com/media/downloads/62/Print_Instruction_Epson.pdf
> >
> > > Also for a great result you need to use QTR Create ICC .
> >
> > Yes, they say it's good. However, I was hoping to get good results
> > without having to engage in using a RIP and/or making ICC (which I've
> > never done before and will cost me a lot of time to figure out). I
> > also thought that since K3 is a widely used inkset and Photo Rag a
> > popular paper, the right settings to use this combination had long
> > been found by others. But maybe I can't be done, making good B&W
> > prints with the 3800 on Photo Rag without using a RIP.
> >
> > Igor
> >
> > --- In
DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com<DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint%40yahoogroups.com>,
> > "Michael King"
> > <drmrking@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Your problem is your paper setting.
> > > Did you check which paper setting is recommended for Photo Rag by
> > > Hahnemühle?
> > > I would use the same paper setting for ABW set to normal.
> > >
> > > Also for a great result you need to use QTR Create ICC - Google it.
> > >
> > > Mike
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > 2008/9/5 Igor Wesdorp <iwesdorp@>
> > >
> > > > Hello everyone.
> > > >
> > > > I just bought me a 3800 and printed some step wedges on Photo
Rag with
> > > > ABW. Then I measured them with a densitometer. But the results
were
> > > > not good. See the graph at http://www.xs4all.nl/~hc6/3800/3800.htm
> > > >
> > > > Although the largest part of the curve is smooth, the darkest
parts
> > > > are bad, with no differentation between the 2 darkest steps.
> > > >
> > > > My settings were:
> > > > PS CS:
> > > > - Print space/Profile/ Printer color management.
> > > > - Working space: gray Gamma 2.2.
> > > >
> > > > Epson:
> > > > - Media type: Velvet Fine Art Paper
> > > >
> > > > Epson ABW:
> > > > - Tone: Dark.
> > > > - No further adjustments.
> > > >
> > > > I also did a print on Velvet Fine Art Paper, which looked
good, but I
> > > > want to use Photo Rag.
> > > >
> > > > Could anyone, please, give me the right settings for printing
B&W on
> > > > Photo Rag with the 3800? (if it is possible to make a good
print on
> > > > this paper with the 3800)
> > > >
> > > > Thank you,
> > > >
> > > > Igor
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
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